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« on: March 31, 2012, 11:52:28 AM »
« edited: June 08, 2012, 01:28:12 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2012, 01:45:23 PM »

I propose this amendment to Section 1b.

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2012, 05:09:31 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 07:05:08 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2012, 07:22:23 PM by Senator Sbane »

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I propose this amendment. I struck out Section 1d since a later part of the bill already had co-insurance in it. That would be Section 2a. I also made some changes to it. I think those making less than 250 times the poverty level should have to pay 10% since it disincentives overuse of health care. I also made sure there are limits to how much people pay out of their own pockets for incomes greater than 250 times the poverty level. An angioplasty costs 25k these days and having someone making 50k pay half of that would be wrong. In addition we should encourage preventative care and that will be completely covered by the government with no cost sharing required by anyone.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 07:13:59 PM »

Also I am a little unclear on the funding mechanism. Is the tax on your health care benefits or your overall income?
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 07:24:26 PM »

This looks like it's just the current law with a few amendments. Which parts are being changed?
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 07:43:28 PM »

Like I posted in the Senate Protest and Analysis thread:

I am having trouble seeing the differences between this bill and the law we already have, and why this should be considered an improvement.  For that matter, why go through the trouble of repealing the previous law when you could simply amend it if you're that dissatisfied with it but want to keep the overall structure in place?  
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2012, 02:46:29 PM »

Where the hell is MoPolitico?
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2012, 10:14:29 PM »


What happens if he doesn't turn up -and soon?  Does someone else have to sponsor this bill or does it get dropped? 
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 04:19:59 PM »


What happens if he doesn't turn up -and soon?  Does someone else have to sponsor this bill or does it get dropped? 

Technically I should this: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119311.msg3249357#msg3249357

But I won't since I don't beleive he has been on since then and thus didn't see my PM about it, I won't. I can't change the sponsor unless he motions for withdrawal, and I can't add co-sponsors without his consent. I can't replace him unless he ceases to be a Senator.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2012, 10:22:15 PM »

I will gladly sponsor this bill, with my changes of course, if MoPolitico doesn't show up.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 07:41:33 AM »

That would take weeks though. If he can't find the time to deal with this bill then we need MoPolitico to move to withdraw the bill. THen someone can volunteer to replace him as sponsor.

Is he on Facebook? Could someone get him on there?
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 08:22:04 AM »

I profusely apologize; I have been extremely busy lately and haven't had the time to drop in here. But, I'm here now. Now: I accept both amendments as friendly.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2012, 12:29:05 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to to both amendments and my decapitation of the sponsor.



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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2012, 06:34:40 PM »

Can I note my personal concern that Yankee is headed for a 'Falling Down' type episode... for those of you not old enough to know what that is... google. Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2012, 08:42:39 PM »

I propose this amendment to Section 1b.

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The conservative citizens within Atlasia have no desire for their hard earned income be used for contraceptive services. We obviously know abortion services would fall within the scope of this bill. As a citizen and as a regional representative I urge the senate to not add to section b of this bill and in fact oppose this bill should contraceptive services remain in the bill.
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2012, 08:44:31 PM »

I voice my disapproval of the Whig War on Women.
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2012, 08:59:44 PM »
« Edited: April 03, 2012, 09:01:46 PM by Senator Scott »

I propose this amendment to Section 1b.

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The conservative citizens within Atlasia have no desire for their hard earned income be used for contraceptive services. We obviously know abortion services would fall within the scope of this bill. As a citizen and as a regional representative I urge the senate to not add to section b of this bill and in fact oppose this bill should contraceptive services remain in the bill.

I'm merely trying to destroy the family as we know it, here.
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2012, 10:37:46 PM »

I propose this amendment to Section 1b.

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The conservative citizens within Atlasia have no desire for their hard earned income be used for contraceptive services. We obviously know abortion services would fall within the scope of this bill. As a citizen and as a regional representative I urge the senate to not add to section b of this bill and in fact oppose this bill should contraceptive services remain in the bill.
I don't see any reason why "contraceptive services" would include abortions. I'm guessing this amendment would just add vasectomies or tube-tying surgeries since birth control pills would already be covered under prescription drugs.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2012, 11:02:37 PM »

I propose this amendment to Section 1b.

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The conservative citizens within Atlasia have no desire for their hard earned income be used for contraceptive services. We obviously know abortion services would fall within the scope of this bill. As a citizen and as a regional representative I urge the senate to not add to section b of this bill and in fact oppose this bill should contraceptive services remain in the bill.
I don't see any reason why "contraceptive services" would include abortions. I'm guessing this amendment would just add vasectomies or tube-tying surgeries since birth control pills would already be covered under prescription drugs.

Correct.  The amendment would not, in fact, cover abortions, since abortion is not a contraceptive.
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2012, 05:28:42 PM »

The Amendments have passed.

Can I note my personal concern that Yankee is headed for a 'Falling Down' type episode... for those of you not old enough to know what that is... google. Smiley

Only if you idiots drag me down, maybe. Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2012, 08:35:45 PM »

This looks like it's just the current law with a few amendments. Which parts are being changed?
Given how many headaches have been caused trying to understand the law as currently written and finding a way to pat for it,  this is still something that needs to be answered.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2012, 09:42:16 PM »

This looks like it's just the current law with a few amendments. Which parts are being changed?
Given how many headaches have been caused trying to understand the law as currently written and finding a way to pat for it,  this is still something that needs to be answered.

Atlasian who can afford to pay for a portion of their healthcare will have to do so, to make the program sustainable.
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »

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I am highlighting the changes made to the original law passed in 2009 including the two amendments that have been added on and the parts that have been struck out.
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2012, 10:41:25 AM »

Healthcare policy is confusing.  So Sbane is giving us the changes that have happened since the current Atlasian policy?  I like the addition of contraception and a ban on advertising of drugs, but would someone explain to me how Section 2(a) is different from our current policy?  Does it just provide more detail?
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