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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: April 04, 2012, 02:05:28 PM »
« edited: April 04, 2012, 02:08:59 PM by Cheesy Grits »

for some it was the opportunity to get the red crayon out and draw a bloodbath (which would never have been allowed in any other drawing)

That's surprising.  There are a lot of bloody bits in both Testaments.

BTW - surely there must be someone in jmf's church who has better sense of graphic design.  This doodle tried to pack in too much text to fit the space available, and at that it failed to include a reference to Isaiah 61:3 that would help make the title make sense.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 04:45:42 PM »

Just so you know, if you post a poorly designed disposable dinner placemat for children you probably shouldn't expect serious discussion. I would think your last attempt would have taught you that.

oh I know...the design is horrible and just destroys the message, right? 

I wouldn't say it destroys it, but it does obscure it.  The primary fault with the latest dinner doodle is that it tries to fit into a single place mat enough to fill a whole tablecloth.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 05:22:10 PM »

So, instead of focusing on the wrapper, why don't you save your objections for the content.

Because there are better wrappers for the exact same content.  The content here is core Christian theology.  The Paschal lamb of Moshe was symbolic of the sacrifice that Christ would later make when he died for our sins.  Any objections to be made for the content would not be an objection to a particular interpretation, but to Christianity itself.

our church does NOT attempt to cater to those whose paramount concern is being entertained
Judging by the dinner doodles, your church is successful in not catering.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 01:18:35 PM »

So, instead of focusing on the wrapper, why don't you save your objections for the content.

Because there are better wrappers for the exact same content.

show me a passage from the bible where anyone, other than the Pharisees, were critiquing in the manner in which you are doing.  Again, you’re straining at a gnat…might as well complain about my churches choice of wallpaper in the bathroom.


If it affected how well your church could convey its chosen message, I might well attempt to offer some constructive criticism of its wallpaper selection.  However, I'm doubtful that bathroom wallpaper would have any effect.  (There's probably people out there who sell wallpaper murals with biblical scenes on it that you could put in a church bathroom and elsewhere, but I doubt if that's what you were referring to.)

As for your attempted comparison of me to the Pharisees, I might point out that the people depicted in the Bible were generally effective in conveying their messages.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 02:56:35 PM »

Actually, I find wood paneling the most attractive wall option.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 05:42:46 PM »

It is one of my biggest problems with low-church Protestantism that it has such a lack of regard for the idea of aesthetics and physical beauty as important parts of God's designs and as themselves indicative of a message or an attitude to a message.

To a degree that is because of Calvinist predestinationism, tho I can't say if that applies to jm or not.  Since predestinationism holds that those destined to be saved will be saved, for those who believe in predestinationism, aesthetics are not particularly important.  What will be will be because God has willed it to be that way.
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