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« on: April 07, 2012, 04:33:09 PM »

Only 120K jobs created in March, about half of what was created last month. Is this going to be the same pattern that happened last year (fast growth in the winter then tapers off significantly) or is this a statistical bump?

Also, the unemployment rate dropped to 8.2%. Do voters care more about job numbers or the unemployment rate? And how will these weaker numbers affect the president?
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 04:34:59 PM »

They're average numbers, they won't change anything really.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2012, 04:08:54 PM »

The recovery is too tepid.

This cannot be considered as good news for Obama.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2012, 04:12:21 PM »

The unemployment rate went down.  It's not that complicated to understand.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 04:22:28 PM »

The recovery is too tepid.

This cannot be considered as good news for Obama.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 04:56:26 PM »

What could be a slowdown in the economy will not help Obama.  One month's statistics in not really enough to call it a slowdown.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2012, 05:08:27 PM »

The unemployment rate went down.  It's not that complicated to understand.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2012, 05:21:17 PM »

The unemployment rate went down.  It's not that complicated to understand.

Because people left the workforce not because they're working.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 05:42:43 PM »

The unemployment rate went down.  It's not that complicated to understand.

Because people left the workforce not because they're working.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303299604577325381794283176.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 05:47:15 PM »

The unemployment rate went down.  It's not that complicated to understand.

Because people left the workforce not because they're working.
It's some of both.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2012, 06:14:50 PM »

Of the 120,000 "new jobs", 90,000 were predicted to be created by a job birth/death formula at the BLS.: 
http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm

However, since this model was so bad in 2010, that the BLS made an end of the year correction of a -367000 jobs, its hard to be confident the +90,000 predicted jobs isn't really -90,000.....
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2012, 06:23:04 PM »
« Edited: April 08, 2012, 06:31:21 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Moderate numbers for a moderate hero President.

Although it is worth noting that unlike Dubya, Obama will probably be in positive territory for his re-election and the end of his first term.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2012, 07:46:13 PM »

Moderate numbers for a moderate hero President.

Although it is worth noting that unlike Dubya, Obama will probably be in positive territory for his re-election and the end of his first term.
Dubya wasn't in positive territory for his reelection?
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2012, 09:25:30 PM »

Moderate numbers for a moderate hero President.

Although it is worth noting that unlike Dubya, Obama will probably be in positive territory for his re-election and the end of his first term.
Dubya wasn't in positive territory for his reelection?

2004 Nov 7-10
53 A
44 D
3 U

2004 Oct 29-31
48 A
47 D
5 U

2004 Oct 22-24
51 A
46 D
3 U

2004 Oct 14-16
51 A
47 D
2 U

2004 Oct 11-14
48 A
49 D
3 U

2004 Oct 9-10
47 A
49 D
4 U

It held long enough for him to get re-elected, anyway.

The jobs numbers will pan out in the end. It's hard to get the growth rate where it needs to be when state/local governments keep shedding 100k jobs every month.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2012, 10:19:10 PM »


It held long enough for him to get re-elected, anyway.

The jobs numbers will pan out in the end. It's hard to get the growth rate where it needs to be when state/local governments keep shedding 100k jobs every month.

State/local governments only shed 1,000 jobs last month. The public sector growth rate might finally be turning around.
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2012, 01:09:50 AM »
« Edited: April 09, 2012, 01:12:53 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Moderate numbers for a moderate hero President.

Although it is worth noting that unlike Dubya, Obama will probably be in positive territory for his re-election and the end of his first term.
Dubya wasn't in positive territory for his reelection?

2004 Nov 7-10
53 A
44 D
3 U

2004 Oct 29-31
48 A
47 D
5 U

2004 Oct 22-24
51 A
46 D
3 U

2004 Oct 14-16
51 A
47 D
2 U

2004 Oct 11-14
48 A
49 D
3 U

2004 Oct 9-10
47 A
49 D
4 U

It held long enough for him to get re-elected, anyway.

The jobs numbers will pan out in the end. It's hard to get the growth rate where it needs to be when state/local governments keep shedding 100k jobs every month.

I wasn't talking about Bush's approval rating, I was talking about the fact that he had a net loss of jobs during his first term (and election day). The last time a Presidential term had a net loss in jobs was when his great-grandfather was an economic adviser to Hoover.
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2012, 08:55:52 AM »


I wasn't talking about Bush's approval rating, I was talking about the fact that he had a net loss of jobs during his first term (and election day). The last time a Presidential term had a net loss in jobs was when his great-grandfather was an economic adviser to Hoover.

IIRC, GWB's actually had job growth beginning in the late summer or early fall of 2004.  Kerry stopped using the job creation figure because of that.

That said, while there was growth, it was modest growth.
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