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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2012, 06:22:26 PM »

Tweed, I think I asked you this before, but how do you reconcile your revolution/seizing the means of production with the deindustrialization of the First World and the increasing shift to service sector work?  Seizing the means of fast food production?
Q: Can IT unionize? A: Of course, seize the Internets/shut everything down so that nobody else can do productive work until their demands are met. De-industrialization doesn't mean you have to have labor/left-wingers lose relevance. I think IT is the best example of de-industrialization.
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2012, 06:41:46 PM »

Tweed, I think I asked you this before, but how do you reconcile your revolution/seizing the means of production with the deindustrialization of the First World and the increasing shift to service sector work?  Seizing the means of fast food production?

The revolution begins in a wal mart parking lot.
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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2012, 07:52:04 PM »

Tweed, I think I asked you this before, but how do you reconcile your revolution/seizing the means of production with the deindustrialization of the First World and the increasing shift to service sector work?  Seizing the means of fast food production?

That's what I've been saying!
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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2012, 07:53:53 PM »

I will not claim that the following is an open-and-shut, but: as has been long known, any struggle against capital that is successful is will have to cross national boundaries.  more later, gotta go
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« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2012, 05:06:52 AM »

good stuff in the most recent New Left Review.

By ‘left’ I mean a root-and-branch opposition to capitalism. But such
an opposition has nothing to gain, I shall argue, from a series of overweening
and fantastical predictions about capitalism’s coming to an
end. Roots and branches are things in the present. The deeper a political
movement’s spadework, the more complete its focus on the here and
now. No doubt there is an alternative to the present order of things. Yet
nothing follows from this—nothing deserving the name political. Left
politics is immobilized, it seems to me, at the level of theory and therefore
of practice, by the idea that it should spend its time turning over
the entrails of the present for signs of catastrophe and salvation. Better
an infinite irony at prescrai and maruflicchio—a peasant irony, with an
earned contempt for futurity—than a politics premised, yet again, on
some terracotta multitude waiting to march out of the emperor’s tomb.
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« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2012, 05:44:09 AM »

this article/dude is really brilliant.

http://www.newleftreview.org/?page=article&view=2954
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« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2012, 01:05:54 PM »


I think he's referring to your sustained effort to appear like the forum's very own Brother Mouzone.


Who? All I see is a guy wearing bowties, which also reminiscent of myself:



But seriously, my writing style seems to be offending people. Really, what am I to do then??
Offend them. If that's what they want to be.
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« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2012, 01:06:50 PM »

I will not claim that the following is an open-and-shut, but: as has been long known, any struggle against capital that is successful is will have to cross national boundaries.  more later, gotta go
Yes. I agree with this. Although "capital" is illdefined.
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