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Peter the Lefty
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« on: June 10, 2012, 09:25:01 AM »
« edited: August 06, 2012, 10:48:06 PM by Peternerdman »

US: When there's no one from the Green Party or the Socialist Party on the ballot, I'd leave it blank.  Otherwise, I'd vote for any smaller, more left-wing party.
UK: Labour after Miliband was elected, but with Ed Balls' "no guarantee of any cut being reversed" and his endorsement of the wage freeze on public sector workers, I'd now be a Green Party supporter.  SNP if I were in Scotland.  Plaid in Wales.  
Canada: NDP all the way (but provincially, in Nova Scotia, I'm pretty mad at their education cuts, do I might go to the Green party there)
France: PS
Germany: Pre-Agenda 2010, the SPD, or maybe the Greens occasionally.  In 2005-2009, either the Greens or the Left.  Now, I suppose if the SPD's leading candidate were on the party's left-wing, I'd vote SPD.  Otherwise, Greens.  If I lived in the West, maybe the Left as well.
Italy: PD or SEL.  Normally the latter.  
Ireland: Labour Pre-2011.  Not sure now.  Can't vote for Sinn Fein so long as it's led by Gerry Adams in the South and Martin McGuinness in the North.  If they dumped both of them and replaced Adams with Mary Lou McDonald, I'd probably be a Sinn Fein supporter now.  
Mexico: PRD, even though I hate AMLO.  
Brazil: PT, but I'm mad as hell at Rousseff atm for environmental/labor/ indigenous sympathy reasons, so I'd now be with the Greens.  
Argentina: PS
Australia: Greens ever since the Hawke/Keating governments would have turned me away from the ALP, though they'd keep my 2PP vote.  And so long as Gillard opposes gay marriage and cuts welfare, the Greens would retain my First preference votes.  
New Zealand: Now that Shearer's the Labour leader, the Greens.
Russia: A Fair Russia
Greece: PASOK Pre-2009, SYRIZA/DIMAR swinger both times in 2012, now SYRIZA.  
Israel: Meretz.  
Spain: United Left, PSOE before the austerity.  
Portugal: Left Bloc, PS before the austerity
Norway: Labour Party, maybe Socialist Left Party
Sweden: Social Democrats
Denmark: Socialist People's Party, with Thorning-Schmidt as SD leader.  
Finland: Social Democrats or Left Alliance, since even the Green League seems to enjoy immigrant-bashing nationalism.  
South Korea: Democratic United Party, maybe Unified Progressive Party.
Japan: Social Democratic Party.  
India: Fourth Front, since the Congress is a bunch of useless corrupt bastards. 
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Peter the Lefty
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 02:22:12 PM »

US: When there's no one from the Green Party or the Socialist Party on the ballot, I'd leave it blank.  Otherwise, I'd vote for any smaller, more left-wing party.
UK: Labour after Miliband was elected, but with Ed Balls' "no guarantee of any cut being reversed" and his endorsement of the wage freeze on public sector workers, I'd now be a Green Party supporter.  SNP if I were in Scotland.  Plaid in Wales.  
Canada: NDP all the way (but provincially, in Nova Scotia, I'm pretty mad at their education cuts, do I might go to the Green party there)
France: PS
Germany: Pre-Agenda 2010, the SPD, or maybe the Greens occasionally.  In 2005-2009, either the Greens or the Left.  Now, I suppose if the SPD's leading candidate were on the party's left-wing, I'd vote SPD.  Otherwise, Greens.  If I lived in the West, maybe the Left as well.
Italy: PD or SEL.  Normally the latter.  
Ireland: Labour Pre-2011.  Not sure now.  Can't vote for Sinn Fein so long as it's led by Gerry Adams in the South and Martin McGuinness in the North.  If they dumped both of them and replaced Adams with Mary Lou McDonald, I'd probably be a Sinn Fein supporter now.  
Mexico: PRD, even though I hate AMLO.  
Brazil: PT, but I'm mad as hell at Rousseff atm for environmental/labor/ indigenous sympathy reasons, so I'd now be with the Greens.  
Argentina: PS
Australia: Greens ever since the Hawke/Keating governments would have turned me away from the ALP, though they'd keep my 2PP vote.  And so long as Gillard opposes gay marriage and cuts welfare, the Greens would retain my First preference votes.  
New Zealand: Now that Shearer's the Labour leader, the Greens.
Russia: A Fair Russia
Greece: PASOK Pre-2009, SYRIZA/DIMAR swinger both times in 2012, now SYRIZA.  
Israel: Meretz.  
Spain: United Left, PSOE before the austerity.  
Portugal: Left Bloc, PS before the austerity
Norway: Labour Party, maybe Socialist Left Party
Sweden: Social Democrats
Denmark: Socialist People's Party, with Thorning-Schmidt as SD leader.  
Finland: Social Democrats or Left Alliance, since even the Green League seems to enjoy immigrant-bashing nationalism.  
South Korea: Democratic United Party, maybe Unified Progressive Party.
Japan: Social Democratic Party.  
India: Fourth Front, since the Congress is a bunch of useless corrupt bastards.  

I think more of PSOL for you, given your turn on left parties when the center left becomes too rightist. Actually, being PSOL much more to the left than their european counterparts, maybe you'd stand with the workers' party but very suspicious - this is the actual situation for many people here. The Greens are a farce. And Marina Silva's main economic advisor was a radical neoclassical/neoliberal/promarket hack.
I didn't know that.  With that information, I guess I'd be on the PSOL's right-wing, since it has many Trotskyites within it, doesn't it?  I guess maybe I'd be a PT supporter who'd be anxious to get Dilma out.  I'm a bit amazed that the PT is still putting up with what she's doing without any revolt.  If anyone were to challenge her from the left, I'd jump to support them within a heartbeat, but as you've pointed out in another thread, Lula's the only one that could (just the idea of that turns me off to the PT, if they're that unquestioning in their support of her).  
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 03:18:27 PM »

And some more:
Poland: SLD, could also see myself
voting for Palikot's movement
Hungary: Socialist Party.  Would have been for "Politics can be Different" or the Greens until Gyurcsany left the MSZP.  
Czech Republic: CSSD.  
Romania: PSD.  Bleh.  
Bulgaria: Ugh.  BSP.
Slovakia: 99 Percent-Civic Voice because Fico is an asshole.  
Slovenia: Greens.  
Serbia: Social Democratic Party.  Only one I could ever vote for since the "Socialist" Party is a bunch of pro-Milosevic neo-nazi scum.  
Ukraine: Tymoshenko Bloc
Turkey: Ugh. CHP.  Even though I hate them.  
Palestine: Palestinian National Initiative.  
Lebanon: Progressive Socialist Party
Yemen: Yemeni Socialist Party
Egypt: ESDP.  Maybe Egyptian Socialist Party too.  
Tunisia:  CPR.  Can also see myself voting for Ettakatol.  
Libya: National Front Party
Algeria: Front of Socialist Forces
Morocco: Labour Party
South Africa: Ugh.  Their parties suck.  Would have been for the ANC in 94 and 99, but Mbeki and Zuma have both been incompetent hacks.  The DA is a bunch of neoliberal rich hacks who pretend to be sympathetic to the poor.  COPE is a failure and a joke; just a bunch of Mbeki loyalists.  I guess United Democratic Movement, even though they're hopeless.  
Pakistan: PPP is a bunch of useless, corrupt, and anti-secular hacks.  There is a Green Party there, believe it or not (the ecologist kind, I mean lol), so I guess I'd vote for them.  
Bangladesh: AL I guess.  Ugh.
Venezuela: Wow.  The Radical Cause, I guess.  I like what Chavez has done in terms of the economy, housing, health care, etc., but I hate him so much for his anti-democratic moves that I'd actually be voting for Capriles in the election this year.  
Bolivia: Pachakuti Movement
Ecuador: Pachakutik
Colombia: Alternative Democratic Pole
Peru: Gana Peru
Chile: PS
Quebec: QS.
Iceland: Social Democratic Alliance
Taiwan: DPP
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 11:07:27 AM »

Good call.

Looking at your Political Matrix score, you must be a pretty lonely Republican (I know NH is different, but that different, seriously?). With scores like that you'd be right at home in New Labour over here and surely further left than many Dems in the South over there?

Well, I wouldn't have been entirely unwelcome in New Labor. But New Labor doesn't exist. Now it's Red Ed. Also, I don't think the Blair-Brown government was very good. And I like "big society" Cameronism.

Also, I find the Republican Party a perfect fit. After all, despite his protestations to the contrary, Mitt Romney is probably around where I am. And even if there are probably Southern Democrats more right-wing than I am, they're all probably still tied to far-left interest groups (SEIU, NEA), and a far-left, irresponsible, incompetent, intolerant, kleptocratic national party.
My feelings exactly!

You guys seriously need a multi-party system...
YES! 
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2013, 08:54:54 PM »

His attitude toward the Breton people and their language is quite clearly bigoted.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 09:50:19 AM »

US: N/A
UK: Greens – 0.9%
France: EELV – 5.5%
Germany: Greens – 10.7%
Italy: SEL – 3.2%
Canada: NDP – 30.6%
Australia: Greens – 10.7%
Spain: IU – 6.9%
Portugal: Left Bloc – 5.2%
Greece: SYRIZA – 26.9%
Poland: Democratic Left Alliance– 8.2%
Denmark: Red-Green Alliance – 6.7%
Czech Republic: Greens – 2.4%
Russia: A Just Russia – 13.2%
Israel: Meretz – 4.6%
Egypt: ESDP – 8.9% (Egyptian bloc)
Turkey: CHP – 26.0%
South Africa: UDM – 0.85%
Norway: Greens – 0.3%
Sweden: Greens – 7.3%
Finland: Left Alliance – 8.1%
Mexico: PRD – 31.6%
Brazil: PSOL – 1.2%
Venezuela: Can't find it, so I'll use the PPT's.  PPT – 3.1%
Argentina: PS – 16.8%
Colombia: PODEMOS – 9.1%
Japan: SDP – 2.38%
South Korea: Progressive Justice Party – Didn't exist
India: All India Forward Bloc – 0.32%
Pakistan: ANP – 0.01%
Taiwan: Democratic Progressive Party – 34.6%
New Zealand: Greens – 11.1%
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 01:35:53 PM »

Updated
US: Ideological leftist independent, still registered Democrat in order to vote in primaries though. 
UK: Green
      Scotland: Scottish Greens
      Wales: Plaid Cymru
      Northern Ireland: SDLP, reluctantly

Canada: NDP
      Quebec: QS
Australia: Greens
New Zealand: Greens
France: Reluctantly the Left Front
Spain: United Left
Germany: The Left
Italy: SEL
Austria: Social Democratic Party of Austria
Poland: Democratic Left Alliance
Czech Republic: CSSD
Slovakia: 99%.  Fico is too awful for me to support SMER.
Slovenia: Positive Slovenia
Romania: Social Liberal Union
Denmark: Red-Green Alliance
Norway: Socialist Left Party
Sweden: Green Party
Finland: Green League
Iceland: Social Democratic Alliance
Japan: Japanese Communist Party
Taiwan: Democratic Progressive Party
South Korea: Justice Party
South Africa: Agang
Israel: Meretz
Egypt: Egyptian Social Democratic Party
Greece: SYRIZA
Turkey: Reluctantly CHP
India: Fourth Front
Pakistan: ANP
Mexico: PRD
Brazil: PSOL
Argentina: PS
Chile: PS
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