What parties would you be in other countries?

[batmacumba]

Australia: Liberal
New Zealand: ACT or National
Canada: Liberal
UK: Liberal Democrat
Northern Ireland: Alliance
USA: Libertarian or Democrat
France: New Centre or MoDem
Germany: FDP
Ireland: Fianna Fáil
Spain: UPyD
Israel: Kadima (possibly Independence)
Poland: Palikot's Movement
South Africa: DA
Italy: Italy of Values or Northern League
Greece: New Democracy
Brazil: Democrats
Mexico: New Alliance Party
Denmark: Liberal Alliance or Danish Social Liberal Party
Russia: Yabloko, Right Cause, or Republican Party of Russia
Switzerland: FDP
Austria: Hans-Peter Martin's List
Sweden: Liberal People's Party or Pirate Party
Estonia: Estonian Reform Party
Netherlands: D66
Finland: National Coalition
Taiwan: Pan-Green Coalition
Serbia: Liberal Democratic Party
South Korea: Democratic United Party
Japan: Your Party
Argentina: Republican Proposal
Portugal: Hope For Portugal Movement
Norway: Liberal Party
India: Nationalist Congress Party
Belgium: Reformist Movement (Wallonian), Open Flemish Liberals And Democrats (Flemish)
Scotland: Scottish Liberal Democrats
Wales: Welsh Liberal Democrats
Ukraine: Reforms and Order Party
Quebec: Quebec Liberal Party or CAQ
Chile: National Renewal
Croatia: Croatian People's Party- Liberal Democrats
Hungary: Politics Can Be Different
Czech Republic: TOP 09 or Public Affairs
Turkey: Republican People's Party
Thailand: Democrat Party
Zimbabwe: Patriotic Union of MaNdebeleland
Burma: National Democratic Force
Singapore: Singapore People's Party
Iran: National Front
Iraq: Iraqi National Accord
Bahrain: National Democratic Action Society
Cyprus/Northern Cyprus: Democratic Rally/Freedom and Reform Party
Egypt: Free Egyptians Party
Jordan: Jordanian Arab Party
Kuwait: National Democratic Alliance
Lebanon: Future Movement
Yemen: Nasserite Unionist People's Organisation
Palestine: Palestinian Democratic Union
Armenia: Heritage
Azerbaijan: Modern Equality Party
Georgia: Georgia's Way or Republicans
Afghanistan: Republican Party of Afghanistan
Pakistan: Muttahida Quami Movement
Kazakhstan: Ak Zhol
Kyrgyzstan: Social Democratic Party of Kyrgyzstan
Tajikistan: Democratic Party
Turkmenistan: Republican Party of Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan: Liberal Democratic Party
Algeria: Rally for Culture and Democracy
Libya: National Front Party
Morocco: Popular Movement
Tunisia: Republican Party

No, you wouldn't. They really don't belong to that list.

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US: When there's no one from the Green Party or the Socialist Party on the ballot, I'd leave it blank.  Otherwise, I'd vote for any smaller, more left-wing party.
UK: Labour after Miliband was elected, but with Ed Balls' "no guarantee of any cut being reversed" and his endorsement of the wage freeze on public sector workers, I'd now be a Green Party supporter.  SNP if I were in Scotland.  Plaid in Wales.  
Canada: NDP all the way (but provincially, in Nova Scotia, I'm pretty mad at their education cuts, do I might go to the Green party there)
France: PS
Germany: Pre-Agenda 2010, the SPD, or maybe the Greens occasionally.  In 2005-2009, either the Greens or the Left.  Now, I suppose if the SPD's leading candidate were on the party's left-wing, I'd vote SPD.  Otherwise, Greens.  If I lived in the West, maybe the Left as well.
Italy: PD or SEL.  Normally the latter.  
Ireland: Labour Pre-2011.  Not sure now.  Can't vote for Sinn Fein so long as it's led by Gerry Adams in the South and Martin McGuinness in the North.  If they dumped both of them and replaced Adams with Mary Lou McDonald, I'd probably be a Sinn Fein supporter now.  
Mexico: PRD, even though I hate AMLO.  
Brazil: PT, but I'm mad as hell at Rousseff atm for environmental/labor/ indigenous sympathy reasons, so I'd now be with the Greens.  
Argentina: PS
Australia: Greens ever since the Hawke/Keating governments would have turned me away from the ALP, though they'd keep my 2PP vote.  And so long as Gillard opposes gay marriage and cuts welfare, the Greens would retain my First preference votes.  
New Zealand: Now that Shearer's the Labour leader, the Greens.
Russia: A Fair Russia
Greece: PASOK Pre-2009, SYRIZA/DIMAR swinger both times in 2012, now SYRIZA.  
Israel: Meretz.  
Spain: United Left, PSOE before the austerity.  
Portugal: Left Bloc, PS before the austerity
Norway: Labour Party, maybe Socialist Left Party
Sweden: Social Democrats
Denmark: Socialist People's Party, with Thorning-Schmidt as SD leader.  
Finland: Social Democrats or Left Alliance, since even the Green League seems to enjoy immigrant-bashing nationalism.  
South Korea: Democratic United Party, maybe Unified Progressive Party.
Japan: Social Democratic Party.  
India: Fourth Front, since the Congress is a bunch of useless corrupt bastards. 

I think more of PSOL for you, given your turn on left parties when the center left becomes too rightist. Actually, being PSOL much more to the left than their european counterparts, maybe you'd stand with the workers' party but very suspicious - this is the actual situation for many people here. The Greens are a farce. And Marina Silva's main economic advisor was a radical neoclassical/neoliberal/promarket hack.

[batmacumba]

Australia: Liberal
New Zealand: ACT or National
Canada: Liberal
UK: Liberal Democrat
Northern Ireland: Alliance
USA: Libertarian or Democrat
France: New Centre or MoDem
Germany: FDP
Ireland: Fianna Fáil
Spain: UPyD
Israel: Kadima (possibly Independence)
Poland: Palikot's Movement
South Africa: DA
Italy: Italy of Values or Northern League
Greece: New Democracy
Brazil: Democrats
Mexico: New Alliance Party
Denmark: Liberal Alliance or Danish Social Liberal Party
Russia: Yabloko, Right Cause, or Republican Party of Russia
Switzerland: FDP
Austria: Hans-Peter Martin's List
Sweden: Liberal People's Party or Pirate Party
Estonia: Estonian Reform Party
Netherlands: D66
Finland: National Coalition
Taiwan: Pan-Green Coalition
Serbia: Liberal Democratic Party
South Korea: Democratic United Party
Japan: Your Party
Argentina: Republican Proposal
Portugal: Hope For Portugal Movement
Norway: Liberal Party
India: Nationalist Congress Party
Belgium: Reformist Movement (Wallonian), Open Flemish Liberals And Democrats (Flemish)
Scotland: Scottish Liberal Democrats
Wales: Welsh Liberal Democrats
Ukraine: Reforms and Order Party
Quebec: Quebec Liberal Party or CAQ
Chile: National Renewal
Croatia: Croatian People's Party- Liberal Democrats
Hungary: Politics Can Be Different
Czech Republic: TOP 09 or Public Affairs
Turkey: Republican People's Party
Thailand: Democrat Party
Zimbabwe: Patriotic Union of MaNdebeleland
Burma: National Democratic Force
Singapore: Singapore People's Party
Iran: National Front
Iraq: Iraqi National Accord
Bahrain: National Democratic Action Society
Cyprus/Northern Cyprus: Democratic Rally/Freedom and Reform Party
Egypt: Free Egyptians Party
Jordan: Jordanian Arab Party
Kuwait: National Democratic Alliance
Lebanon: Future Movement
Yemen: Nasserite Unionist People's Organisation
Palestine: Palestinian Democratic Union
Armenia: Heritage
Azerbaijan: Modern Equality Party
Georgia: Georgia's Way or Republicans
Afghanistan: Republican Party of Afghanistan
Pakistan: Muttahida Quami Movement
Kazakhstan: Ak Zhol
Kyrgyzstan: Social Democratic Party of Kyrgyzstan
Tajikistan: Democratic Party
Turkmenistan: Republican Party of Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan: Liberal Democratic Party
Algeria: Rally for Culture and Democracy
Libya: National Front Party
Morocco: Popular Movement
Tunisia: Republican Party

No, you wouldn't. They really don't belong to that list.

What else is there then? PMDB I guess? Or the Social Liberal Party?

Green Party, if we have to stood for one.

The social-liberal party is a non-issue. You'd propably vote 'for the candidate, not for the party'. Maybe you'd have a fondness to older PSB (even them being too much to the left of your economic PM, they were the natural choice for moderate social-libertarians, until the early 2000's)and 'historical' PMDB politicians. Would be a Lula's supporter in 2002, only to start hating him around 2004/2005 and vote nationally for PSDB (but PV in 2010's first round). Now clearly on PV. Despite them being a farse in my opinion, I think They're a very fair choice for a centrist-libertarian, specially if they keep the path they're going. My problem with them is they're not really greens outside political marketing.

[batmacumba]

Australia: Green
Canada:
   Alberta: I'm actually a member of the PC's, although that's largely because in my riding the choice is essentially between PC and Wildrose.  Would vote NDP if in Edmonton.
   British Columbia: NDP
   New Brunswick: NDP
   Newfoundland and Labrador: NDP
   Nova Scotia: NDP
   Ontario: NDP
   Prince Edward Island: Liberal
   Quebec: Quebec Solidaire
   Saskatchewan: NDP
Denmark: Socialist People's Party
France: French Communist Party/Left Party
Germany: The Left
Greece: SYRIZA
Ireland: Sinn Fein
Mexico: Party of the Democratic Revolution
Netherlands: Socialist Party
New Zealand: Green Party
Norway: Socialist Left Party
Sweden: Left Party
United Kingdom: Respect Party
United States: Green Party
Vermont: Vermont Progressive Party

Hi Njall, welcome to the forum!
If you are prepared to go as far left as to vote Linke in Germany and Syriza in Greece you would likely vote Red-Green Alliance in Denmark, its a bit less radical than those two.

Anyway, why Liberal in PEI? Dont they have an NDP? What about Manitoba, would you also vote NDP there?

I definitely understand his choices Politicus: leftist, but preference to the non-autoritarian and transigent ones. So, a hard scene in Germany and a more diverse situation in Denmark. Also, it's pretty clear from this POV, that a existent and trustable centrist or center-left party is preferable to a nonexistent leftist one.
I am more puzzled with the option for the US Greens, under this logic.

[batmacumba]

Well, thats the second indirect answer from someone else than Njall. It was really just a question/comment to him.
 

And that was a smart way to subvert yours and ask mine, about the US Greens.

But nevermind: The French Commies are hardly non-authoritarian and Linke have their authoritarians as well. In Germany the Greens would be an obvious option as an "existent and trustable centrist or center-left party" if thats what he is going for.
I am not sure what you mean by a "nonexistent" leftist party. How can those parties be nonexistent?

I wouldn't call the PCF authoritarian, strictily. More on arrogant douchebags, but I can't see them dismantling the whole French republican sistem. On Die Linke, that's exactly what I've said. I must have a real bad problem on communicating using the english language, once, time after time, some people use something I've said to contradict me. Whatever.

But nevermind: The French Commies are hardly non-authoritarian and Linke have their authoritarians as well. In Germany the Greens would be an obvious option as an "existent and trustable centrist or center-left party" if thats what he is going for.
I am not sure what you mean by a "nonexistent" leftist party. How can those parties be nonexistent?

And maybe your nice very functional danish political sistem may make you not see it, but what doesn't lack in the rest of the world are non-existing parties which pretend to exist. The PEI NDP or, here, Marina Silva's movement or PT-PB, like lots of parties and local party branches everywhere doesn't really exist out of paper.

[batmacumba]

Well, your English is pretty crappy, but I doubt that was the problem, more the holes in your line of reasoning.

Well, on my English language skills, there's nothing I can do but trying to improve It. Don't be shy to point out any obscurity on my writing.
But I claim not to have any hole on my reasoning line, if this is the problem.

Neither the German Greens nor the Danish Red-Green Alliance are nonexistent parties, so it didn't make sense in the context. Red-Green Alliance is anti-authoritarian, so its not relevant to dismiss them with some crap reference to authoritarianism and then mentioning parties with far more authoritarian tendencies like PCF.

The German Greens are far from being trustable from a leftist point of view. They're quite centrist - not that I would really have a problem with that, at this point of my life. But at a certain point, I would definitely swallow my distrust on Die Linke GDR associations and vote for them (specially after Hartz IV) which I think is the option of the poster on whose choices we were commenting.

And I really think SPP was a very bona fide democratic socialist option before the current Danish government, while Enhnedslisten (I hope my Danish is still good enough not to misspell) bears the heritage of the DKP, mixed with those trotsy rants that make any reasonable person ran away. They seem to be working on it, and I can expect they become a Danish PT, but, being a national, you now much better than I that the Danish party system is on some point of transition - to nobody really knows where. Nevertheless, I'm failing to see where did I call them authoritarian; please, avoid putting words on my keyboard.

So, from the point of view I've read from Njall, his options make lots of sense. Except for the US Greens .

Anyway, don't use replies to "subvert" other posters. No reason to be a douchebag.

Oh, sorry. Being provocative douchebags is just a Brazilian thing, specially with easily bellicificating acquitances. That's one of the way we make friends.
The other is being ironic douchebags. But never arrogant douchebags. If I ever be an arrogant douchebag with you, feel very free to complain.

[batmacumba]

Well, after this, I think I need to do one of these:

USA: Democrat
  Vermont: Progressive
UK:
  England: Labour
  N.I.: I can do nothing, good English people. I'll die an anti-colonialist.
  Scotland: SNP
  Wales: Plaid
Germany: eenie meenie miney mo between the left and center-left parties.
Israel: Meretz
Canada: NDP (QS)
Australia: Green
Denmark: SPP (Probably Red-Green at this point)
Italy: No one with a definitive choice in Italy is acting wisely
Russia: A Fair Russia (I know they're probably tools, but I trust in the Russian real opposition as much as I trust in Putin).
France: FASE, Les Alternatifs (I know they're both non-existent parties; I could support a non-dumb centrist)
Austria: Green
Ireland: eenie meenie miney mo between the extreme-lefts
Spain: IU if in Castilla. Any regional leftist otherwise. (is equo a national party?)
Portugal: loooooooog breath... Closed eyes... Open them... Gaze down... PS
Greece: DIMAR
Flandres: let me do this awful comparision (no ofense intended): there is this interesting and beautiful transvestite in the room and all the women are boring, dumb and ugly. Certainly one of them is a very good person, but I reserve myself the right to not have sex. The female sexual organ is a sine qua non condition for me. Being an interesting person too. Yet, I support her right to emancipation.
Wallonie: PS

[batmacumba]

France: FASE, Les Alternatifs (I know they're both non-existent parties; I could support a non-dumb centrist)

So you'd vote for the FG. The FASE and Alternatifs don't run separately from the FG anymore besides in a few local elections or some dissidents.

That's a front, not a party. Or am I that wrong about the French political system? I have my qualms with the PCF and I gave up the PG after Melenchon's comments on Breton language issues.
Anyway, what would you say about the MdC? Too much authoritarian tendencies, or something?

[batmacumba]

France: FASE, Les Alternatifs (I know they're both non-existent parties; I could support a non-dumb centrist)

So you'd vote for the FG. The FASE and Alternatifs don't run separately from the FG anymore besides in a few local elections or some dissidents.

That's a front, not a party. Or am I that wrong about the French political system? I have my qualms with the PCF and I gave up the PG after Melenchon's comments on Breton language issues.
Anyway, what would you say about the MdC? Too much authoritarian tendencies, or something?

If you want to be pedantic, yes, the FG isn't an actual party - it's a quasi-permanent coalition of many parties (most of which probably have like 2 members). In electoral terms, since the FG's components almost always support one candidate (except in some local elections, or like in the 2010 regionals when the PG ran lists with the NPA in places where the PCF had allied with the PS), it is pretty much a single political party. It makes little difference if you dislike the PCF, PG and like the FASE.

The 'MDC' has been known as the MRC since 2002. I guess if you're a Eurosceptic and Jacobin left-republican, the MRC is a fine choice. But the MRC doesn't matter all that much anymore, since most of the time they ally with the PS by the first round anyhow (how do you think they win their seats?).

Mmmmm...
Well, I can't really decide if I'm a Jacobin Left-republican or if I'm a 68's libertarian-christian-left Bobo. Depends on my mood. In the end I just skip the center-left and vary between the center and the extreme left avoiding to stop in the middle.
I thought that FASE and Les Alternatifs would be PSU's clear inheritors. Was I that wrong?

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Well, after this, I think I need to do one of these:

 Spain: IU if in Castilla. Any regional leftist otherwise. (is equo a national party?)

Well, there is more than Castile in what's the rest of Spain (I mean, outside our 'historical nationalities': Catalonia, Basque Country and Galicia). I guess that Equo is a 'national' party, though it didn't run lists in Catalonia because Iniciativa per Catalunya-Verds is its 'sister' party, member of the European Greens. In  the Valencian region (País Valencià or Comunidad Valenciana) they made a coalition with Compromís (a mix Valencian nationalists, former IU members and greenies) and in the German colony known as Balearic Islands with the Partit Socialista de Mallorca-Entesa Nacionalista. Also Equo went with some small local parties in the Western Canaries.

I know, I know!
But Cantábria, Extremadura, Aragon, Andaluzia, all have their options. I think only La Rioja and Múrcia would be simplified to Castilla in my scheme.
BTW, very admirable by you spaniards to allow German states to participate in your elections.