Libya 2012

[Dereich]

Thought we should have one of these. The Libyans are having a "Public National Conference" election tomorrow, which seems to be similar to the Egyptian constitutional assembly election a few months ago.  Also, some of the Benghazites who want a more federal system are calling for boycotts.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/06/libya-election.html

It also sounds like the government thats most likely is made up of the MB aligned Freedom and Construction party and that of secularist former PM Jibril:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9379022/Libya-elections-Muslim-Brotherhood-set-to-lead-government.html

[Tender Branson]

It should be noted that the provisional parliament will consist of 200 members, out of which 80 are for party list members and 120 are for independent candidates. Party list members need to be 50% female, while there is no requirement for Independents. Which means that of about 3000 Independent candidates, only about 80 are female.

So, it looks like about 40-45 out of 200 MP's will be women.

[Mr. Morden]

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[MaxQue]

Good than in a fragile democracy, the losers recognise than they lose.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Good than in a fragile democracy, the losers recognise than they lose.

Yes, it's rare enough to be praised.

[Hash]

Even if Jibril is a former Gaddafi stalwart, I guess his guys are probably the least horrible guys and they're not Islamists.

[RogueBeaver]

What Hash said.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

So the liberals won? There's hope for legalizing alcohol.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Interesting how Tunisia and Egypt, which are generally presented as the most "modern" countries, saw Islamist landslides whereas in the allegedly archaic Libya the liberals seem to be winning.

[hawkeye59]

Interesting how Tunisia and Egypt, which are generally presented as the most "modern" countries, saw Islamist landslides whereas in the allegedly archaic Libya the liberals seem to be winning.

Probably because Gaddafi had much more of a connection to Islamism than Ben Ali or Mubarak. But still, good news.

[The Mikado]

Interesting how Tunisia and Egypt, which are generally presented as the most "modern" countries, saw Islamist landslides whereas in the allegedly archaic Libya the liberals seem to be winning.

More that the Libyan liberals saw what happened in the others and ran as a united front to prevent vote splitting.  (Remember that Ennadha in Tunisia won eith only ~38% due to secularist vote splitting).

[Mr. Morden]

Of course, another huge difference from Egypt and Tunisia is that in Libya there was an actual armed revolt against the regime, and the leadership of that armed revolt (to the extent that it had leadership) was the same liberal bloc that is winning this election.

More:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/world/africa/libya-election-latest-results.html?google_editors_picks=true

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[Zuza]

Interesting how Tunisia and Egypt, which are generally presented as the most "modern" countries, saw Islamist landslides whereas in the allegedly archaic Libya the liberals seem to be winning.

More that the Libyan liberals saw what happened in the others and ran as a united front to prevent vote splitting.  (Remember that Ennadha in Tunisia won eith only ~38% due to secularist vote splitting).

In elections participated at least 2 liberal parties (National Forces Alliance and National Front Party).

[minionofmidas]

Of course, another huge difference from Egypt and Tunisia is that in Libya there was an actual armed revolt against the regime, and the leadership of that armed revolt (to the extent that it had leadership) was the same liberal bloc that is winning this election.

In short, the victors are not "liberal" in any meaningful way and are not as "modern" as Islamists.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

So the liberals won? There's hope for legalizing alcohol.

All that matters for you...

Seriously, shut up sometimes.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Interesting how Tunisia and Egypt, which are generally presented as the most "modern" countries, saw Islamist landslides whereas in the allegedly archaic Libya the liberals seem to be winning.

As of Tunisia, first of all, the Ennahda Movement is very moderate when compared to parties such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

Second of all, it was hardly some great "Islamic landslide", considering that Ennahda is significantly below a parliamentary majority and had to form a coalition government with the social democratic parties such as Ettakatol or Congress for the Republic, which also took the Presidency.

Finally, Gaddafi was hardly a "liberal".

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/09/us-libya-elections-idUSBRE86412N20120709

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[Antonio the Sixth]

BTW, can a constituency map be found somewhere ?

[RBH]

try this: http://www.hnec.ly/modules/googlemaps/

[Mr. Morden]

Wikipedia has some results now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_General_National_Congress_election,_2012

With some additional context given here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/17/us-libya-election-idUSBRE86G1EN20120717

Jibril's faction ended up winning 39 of the 80 party seats, well ahead of 2nd place (Muslim Brotherhood-backed) Justice and Construction Party, with 17 seats.  But since the majority of the new parliament will be independents, no one really knows for sure who's going to form a government.

[RBH]

List of winners: http://www.libyaherald.com/elected-members-of-the-national-congress-by-constituency/ (caution, the site is slow)

Most popular winners:
Ibrahim Ali Mohamed Abu Shaala, Mizdah, 9,279 votes (68.23%)
Maree Mohamed Mansour Raheel, Tawergha, 3,572 votes (67.99%)
Abdulaziz Ettaher Ehreba Zabasi Al-Kekli, Kekla/El-Galaa, 5,483 votes (66.91%)
Nouri Ali Mohamed Abu Sahmain, Zuara, 8,079 votes (58.07%)
Abu Bakr Murtada Mukhtar Emdawer, Ghadames, 3976 votes (57.82%)

Least popular winners (one-winner seat):
Hamed Abdussalam Abdullah Al-Baghdadi, Wadi Eshatti (Al Gurda), 811 votes (16.43%)
Mohamed Besheer Misbah Bin Meskeen, Wadi Eshatti (Brak), 676 votes (16.23%)
Abdulmajid Al Mahdi Miloud Azantuni, Aziziya, 1,997 votes (15.77%)
Zidan Misbah Abdullah Mohamed Marzoug, Wadi Eshatti (Idri), 903 votes (14.46%)
Besheer Mahmoud Mohamed Al-Hosh, Ajilat, 2,131 votes (14.02%)
Abdul Aali Anwar Mahmoud Al-Murtada, Qasr Libya, 1,144 votes (13.98%)
Othman Mabrouk Miftah Al-Ghedwi, Emsehel, Essayeh, Esbea, 1,743 votes (11.26%)

The wonder of this electoral system also means that the Benghazi seat, which had 258 candidates facing off for 9 seats led to 6 winners who didn't top 1% of the total vote.

So maybe in an election or two, they'll stop going Papua New Guinea style with having giant non-partisan elections for some seats

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.euronews.com/2012/08/10/moderate-islamist-mohammed-magarief-voted-leader-of-libya-national-assembly/

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