FINAL RATIFICATION VOTE PART 2 - AMENDMENTS
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 23, 2024, 10:27:05 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Atlas Fantasy Elections
  Atlas Fantasy Elections
  Voting Booth (Moderators: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee, Lumine)
  FINAL RATIFICATION VOTE PART 2 - AMENDMENTS
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4
Author Topic: FINAL RATIFICATION VOTE PART 2 - AMENDMENTS  (Read 17925 times)
Demrepdan
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,305


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2004, 09:45:10 PM »

No vote yet, but Amdt IV has an unusually constructed sentence: "No district shall have more than two more register voters than another district." This could be reworded, "No district's registered voter population shall exceed another's by more than two voters."

I'll change this as soon as possible....thank you for pointing this out....I still have to go through some other posts and threads to see what must be changed....(I remember Lewis making some good suggestions...that I will comply with)
Logged
Demrepdan
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,305


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2004, 09:47:00 PM »

Yes on all Amendments...

NO on preferential voting...

I don't care how the regions and districts are distributed...as long as there are always 10 states per region.....and an equal amount of voters per district.
Logged
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2004, 10:35:01 PM »

Okay something I don't understand is you can't swap Nebraska and Missouri in the district plan because their in the same one from what I can see
Oops. Regions, of course.
Logged
Beet
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,904


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2004, 10:35:33 PM »

Yes on all amendments.

Preference ABCD.

YES on preferential voting. This is the ONLY way to prevent penalizing third parties, which make the Atlas elections more interesting IMO.
Logged
??????????
StatesRights
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,126
Political Matrix
E: 7.61, S: 0.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2004, 10:39:27 PM »

Yes to all!
Logged
12th Doctor
supersoulty
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,584
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2004, 12:19:41 AM »

Yes on all amendments.

Preference ABCD.

YES on preferential voting. This is the ONLY way to prevent penalizing third parties, which make the Atlas elections more interesting IMO.

No, this is a certain way to assure a Dem./Progressive majoritarian alliance.
Logged
Beet
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,904


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2004, 12:58:12 AM »

No, because if any party including Republicans get over half the first choice votes they will win no matter what. Just like we had in the first election. Now you still have a guranteed win with over 50% of the vote. So it doesn't make any party worse off than it was in the first election, which everyone thought fair. The only difference is that now we have more than two parties, and we do NOT want a president to be elected with only 35% support.

I don't want a party to form a government with only something like 35% of the votes, especially if the other 65% had that party as their last choice.
Logged
Platypus
hughento
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,478
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2004, 02:10:22 AM »
« Edited: March 29, 2004, 02:11:05 AM by hughento »

yes
yes
yes
yes
BCAD

yes on the 6th amendment-Preferential voting.
Logged
Huckleberry Finn
Finn
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,819


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2004, 06:12:03 AM »

Yes on the first amendment.
No on the second amendment. (They should be more than 18 posts for right to vote)
Yes on the third amendment
CBAD on fourth amendment
Yes on the fifth amendment
No on preferential voting
Logged
Gustaf
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,778


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: -0.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2004, 01:54:16 PM »

Yes on 1st, 2nd, 5th.

No to 3rd.

Will have to think about 4th, not sure I get all the alternatives there.

Logged
Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,203


Political Matrix
E: -8.00, S: -3.49

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2004, 02:34:48 PM »

Yes on 1st, 2nd, 5th.

No to 3rd.

Will have to think about 4th, not sure I get all the alternatives there.



Gustaf,

You didn't vote on the Preferential Voting amendment....which is interesting considering you started the original PV thread.
Logged
Gustaf
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,778


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: -0.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2004, 02:47:05 PM »

Yes on 1st, 2nd, 5th.

No to 3rd.

Will have to think about 4th, not sure I get all the alternatives there.



Gustaf,

You didn't vote on the Preferential Voting amendment....which is interesting considering you started the original PV thread.

Ah, yes. Smiley I'll vote in favour of it then.
Logged
MAS117
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,206
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2004, 05:57:09 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2004, 07:28:25 PM by Atty. Gen. MAS117 »

i dont want pv
Logged
Emsworth
Lord Emsworth
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,054


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2004, 06:23:11 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2004, 06:52:16 PM by Emsworth »

Amdts. I, II, III: Yes
Amdt V: No
Amdt IV: CBAD
Preferential Voting: No
Logged
Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,203


Political Matrix
E: -8.00, S: -3.49

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2004, 06:37:08 PM »


On the Preferential Voting amendment, I count:

9 Yeas
8 Nays
1 Abstention
3 Who voted on other amendments but didn't mention this...maybe the are deliberate abstentions, maybe just an oversight (ShapeShifter, Reaganfan, Emsworth)

Looks like it will go down to the wire!

Logged
Emsworth
Lord Emsworth
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,054


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2004, 06:52:36 PM »

3 Who voted on other amendments but didn't mention this...maybe the are deliberate abstentions, maybe just an oversight (ShapeShifter, Reaganfan, Emsworth)
Just an oversight from me.
Logged
Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,203


Political Matrix
E: -8.00, S: -3.49

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2004, 07:04:20 PM »

3 Who voted on other amendments but didn't mention this...maybe the are deliberate abstentions, maybe just an oversight (ShapeShifter, Reaganfan, Emsworth)
Just an oversight from me.

In that case, what is your vote?
Logged
Emsworth
Lord Emsworth
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,054


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2004, 07:14:19 PM »

3 Who voted on other amendments but didn't mention this...maybe the are deliberate abstentions, maybe just an oversight (ShapeShifter, Reaganfan, Emsworth)
Just an oversight from me.

In that case, what is your vote?
I modified my post above to indicate a vote of No.
Logged
MAS117
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,206
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2004, 07:28:44 PM »

im chanigng my vote, i dont want pv it was a mistake
Logged
MAS117
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,206
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2004, 07:52:33 PM »

now its
10 No
8 Yes
1 Absentation

on the P Voting
Logged
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2004, 12:50:25 AM »

im chanigng my vote, i dont want pv it was a mistake

We had that issue before...You should not be able to change a vote cast. I'll admit we didn't really have a constructive debate on it...At the very least, I demand that to change your vote, you edit your original post and clearly mark it as edited and what the changes are, rather than putting a post somewhere in teh middle. Makes it easier to count ballots...
Logged
MAS117
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,206
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2004, 01:01:45 AM »

i did both lewis, i changed the first post
Logged
Platypus
hughento
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,478
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2004, 02:04:58 AM »

What are you againsts PV?

It is more democratic, and fairer to third parties. It just makes sense!

This is the ATLAS forum on the WORLD WIDE web-it doesnt have to be a replica of the US system-if there is a better system in other countries, use it-shouldn't we try to get the best possible system, rather then a useable but less democratic one?
Logged
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2004, 10:46:12 PM »

You still have seven hours to vote, so I'm just moving this back to page one...
Logged
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2004, 03:35:06 AM »

There are seven abstentions on what regions plan to use out of 22 ballots cast: by Dunn, Reaganfan, supersoulty, Demrepdan, StatesRights, Gustaf and MAS.
There are nine first preference votes for Plan C, 5 for Plan A and one for Plan B (none for "Plan" D, btw, though it got two second preferences).

The first, second and third amendments are sailing through, 20-0-2 abstentions for the first, 19-1-2 for the other two.
The fifth amendment appears also to be passing unless there's a big surge in turnout in the next few hours: 14-5-3.
The Preferential voting amendment is going down to the wire, with 10 no, 8 yes, 3 abstentions.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.05 seconds with 13 queries.