Is Georgia the solid south for Republicans?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 28, 2024, 06:37:41 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Gubernatorial/State Elections (Moderators: Brittain33, GeorgiaModerate, Gass3268, Virginiá, Gracile)
  Is Georgia the solid south for Republicans?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Is Georgia the solid south for Republicans?  (Read 1747 times)
old timey villain
cope1989
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,741


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: April 13, 2012, 07:37:07 PM »

After three Republican gubernatorial landslides and an increasingly Republican legislature, can Democrats make a comeback anytime soon? Should the democrats try to put together a new coalition?
Logged
Miles
MilesC56
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,324
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 07:54:47 PM »

For now, the Republicans will be safe b/c of redistricting. In the long run, the areas that are growing the fastest, like Gwinnett and Cobb counties will become friendlier to Democrats.
Logged
Yelnoc
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,149
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 07:55:28 PM »

No, demographics will continue to trend D.  By the end of the decade, Georgia will be a swing state.  Next decade, I imagine the Republican gerrymanders will be reversed.
Logged
Frodo
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,509
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 08:27:32 PM »

No, demographics will continue to trend D.  By the end of the decade, Georgia will be a swing state.  Next decade, I imagine the Republican gerrymanders will be reversed.

I can only see Georgia being a swing state at the presidential level -perhaps as early as this year.  Obama did come remarkably close in 2008. 
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 08:36:02 PM »

It will remain Republican-tilted in U.S. House races and a fair amount of the state legislative seats due to redistricting. Senators, Governor, President and all statewide offices will be an open game by 2016. I expect that a bad result for Democrats in 2016 will be comparable to the 2008 result. It'll be an uphill battle, though. All of the statewide offices and alternating Senators are elected during midterms, which obviously favors Republicans.
Logged
All Along The Watchtower
Progressive Realist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,426
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 11:53:53 PM »

No, demographics will continue to trend D.  By the end of the decade, Georgia will be a swing state.  Next decade, I imagine the Republican gerrymanders will be reversed.

What about the growth of the exurbs?
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 07:52:44 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2012, 01:03:23 AM by Mittosis »

No, demographics will continue to trend D.  By the end of the decade, Georgia will be a swing state.  Next decade, I imagine the Republican gerrymanders will be reversed.

What about the growth of the exurbs?

The rapid growth in the exurbs is fueled mainly by new settlers to the area. Statistical advantage for the Democrats. Cobb and Gwinnett (suburbs) are already close to flipping. Cherokee, Forsyth and Hall (~600,000 people) will remain heavily Republican probably forever and will probably remain split across 2 CDs in order to bolster Republican support in the area (the new 9th and 11th CDs). Cobb and Gwinnett (~1,600,000) will cancel out any of the exurb growth as it trends Democratic.

The Democrats' floor in Georgia is quickly improving. Look at the 2010 Governor's race. Roy Barnes, who was chastised out of office in 2002 by teachers and Confederate fools, still managed to get 43% of the vote. In a mid-term. In 2010. Deal barely got 53% (with a 4% diversion to Monds). Republicans - generally speaking - who aren't facing an incompetent Democrat are now topping out in Georgia at 51-53%.

Barnes was highly unpopular outside Democratic circles here. With his efforts to furlough teachers and his success in finally removing the Stars and Bars, he was about as well-liked as Joe Lieberman. Even though he's a "state" candidate and former governor, he was probably as unpopular as a national candidate, and yet did better than Kerry did here in an election cycle that significantly favored Republicans.

What percentage of the vote did the previous gubernatorial candidate get? 38.22%. In 2006, which was a good national year for Democrats. The Libertarian candidate also got around 4% this time, too. To close the margin ten points between 2006 in 2010 at the state level in Georgia is huge, especially when you consider that 2006 was a +D year and 2010 was a +R year.
Logged
freepcrusher
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,828
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 08:10:34 PM »

For now, the Republicans will be safe b/c of redistricting.

It's hard for the republicans to gerrymander southern states. Democrats are stronger at the local level then they are at the national level.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,609
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2012, 12:34:58 PM »

Cobb and Gwinnett (suburbs) are already close to flipping.

McCain polled 54% in both. Of course that's very low for the way things had been, but Obama did stunningly well in places like that pretty much everywhere.
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2012, 11:55:03 PM »

Cobb and Gwinnett (suburbs) are already close to flipping.

McCain polled 54% in both. Of course that's very low for the way things had been, but Obama did stunningly well in places like that pretty much everywhere.

Definitely. I'm not necessarily sure there will be huge gains in those counties between 2008 and 2012. It's possible though that the result could be preserved or even improved upon; there are some interesting things to observe:

Election Results - Gwinnett:

2002 - Governor

Barnes (D) - 36.74%
Perdue (R) - 59.77%

2004 - President

Kerry (D) - 33.46%
Bush (R) - 65.71%

2006 - Governor

Taylor (D) - 29.02%
Perdue (R) - 66.19%

2008 - President

Obama (D) - 44.35%
McCain (R) - 54.56%

2010 - Governor

Barnes (D) - 37.65%
Deal (R) - 57.48%

Census Demographics - Gwinnett:

2000:

Total Population: 588,488

White: 373,315 (63.4%)
Black: 81,804 (13.9%)
Latino: 64,137 (10.9%)
Asian: 45,993 (7.8%)

2010:

Total Population 805,321 (+36.9%)

White: 322,128 (44.0%)
Black: 190,051 (23.6%)
Latino: 161, 870 (20.1%)
Asian: 85,364 (10.6%)

----

Gwinnett's a majority-minority county now. Cobb's demographics are similar, but it's still 56% white and the rate of change is occurring more slowly; however, the whites are more progressive in Cobb than in Gwinnett.

The Republican gains in 2010 compared to 2008 results are not bad given the candidate issues I mentioned earlier, the fact that Republicans always slaughter Democrats in mid-terms in Georgia now, and the heavy national and state Republican advantages in 2010. Yet they were unable to make it back to their 2004/2006 results, which would have been easily obtainable if there was a huge backlash present and waiting in these areas. The whites may be mad, but they matter less than ever.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.039 seconds with 12 queries.