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« on: April 14, 2012, 11:45:10 PM »

Lets say Romney doesn't secure enough support from the conservative base of the Republican party. The conservative base decides not to vote for him at all and stays home.  He decides to run as Independent after he gets all 1,144 delegates.  Does he gather enough votes from right leaning Democrats, moderates and liberal Republicans to beat Obama?  There are no Republicans running against Romney/Obama.  Post a map if you wish.
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2012, 11:45:53 PM »

He decides to run as Independent after he gets all 1,144 delegates.

Why?
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 11:46:21 PM »

Not that this would ever happen, but wouldn't someone have to run as the Republican candidate, in this scenario?
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2012, 11:51:15 PM »

Not that this would ever happen, but wouldn't someone have to run as the Republican candidate, in this scenario?


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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2012, 01:16:44 AM »

I'm pretty sure he would have already had to file the appropriate paperwork and collect enough signatures in all 50 states in order to appear on the ballot as an actual Independent and not be a write-in. It's logistically impossible; even if he did get on the ballot as an Independent, you would still most likely have his name as a Republican choice as well.

In other words:

[X] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] Mitt Romney (I)

I have to admit, though, it would be interesting to see if they would count his cumulative vote in a situation like that or whether he'd literally split himself in two. Flip-flop mitosis.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2012, 01:29:13 AM »

I'm pretty sure he would have already had to file the appropriate paperwork and collect enough signatures in all 50 states in order to appear on the ballot as an actual Independent and not be a write-in. It's logistically impossible; even if he did get on the ballot as an Independent, you would still most likely have his name as a Republican choice as well.

In other words:

[X] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] Mitt Romney (I)

I have to admit, though, it would be interesting to see if they would count his cumulative vote in a situation like that or whether he'd literally split himself in two. Flip-flop mitosis.

8 states have electoral fusion. The other 42 would have flip flopping Romney running against himself.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 02:24:23 AM »

Wait, so we'd see the 'severe conservative' running against the 'independent during Reagan/Bush', at the same time?

*popcorn*
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 02:32:33 AM »

Wait, so we'd see the 'severe conservative' running against the 'independent during Reagan/Bush', at the same time?

*popcorn*

Yes, and thankfully Massachusetts is one of the 42, so that he could be the penultimate Massachusetts flip flopper. 5 of the 8 electoral fusion states wouldn't vote for him anyways, so fusion would only save him in South Carolina and Mississippi (Romney doesn't need fusion to win Idaho).
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 02:56:14 AM »

Wait, so we'd see the 'severe conservative' running against the 'independent during Reagan/Bush', at the same time?

*popcorn*

Yes, and thankfully Massachusetts is one of the 42, so that he could be the penultimate Massachusetts flip flopper. 5 of the 8 electoral fusion states wouldn't vote for him anyways, so fusion would only save him in South Carolina and Mississippi (Romney doesn't need fusion to win Idaho).

OMG YES YES YES. Can you imagine Mitt Romney running commercials going back and forth with himself? "I'm not trying to go back to Reagan/Bush", "I was a severely conservative governor". What a scenario, somebody should write it out.

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 02:58:50 AM »

The self-fulfilling prophesy continues:
If that's the case, then there must be a bunch of blow hard dummies in this state.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2012, 03:40:37 AM »

The self-fulfilling prophesy continues:
If that's the case, then there must be a bunch of blow hard dummies in this state.
Please change your avatar you fake.  Don't hide your true colors.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2012, 06:29:50 AM »

The self-fulfilling prophesy continues:
If that's the case, then there must be a bunch of blow hard dummies in this state.
Please change your avatar you fake.  Don't hide your true colors.

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2012, 07:07:26 AM »

Wait, so we'd see the 'severe conservative' running against the 'independent during Reagan/Bush', at the same time?

*popcorn*

Yes, and thankfully Massachusetts is one of the 42, so that he could be the penultimate Massachusetts flip flopper. 5 of the 8 electoral fusion states wouldn't vote for him anyways, so fusion would only save him in South Carolina and Mississippi (Romney doesn't need fusion to win Idaho).

OMG YES YES YES. Can you imagine Mitt Romney running commercials going back and forth with himself? "I'm not trying to go back to Reagan/Bush", "I was a severely conservative governor". What a scenario, somebody should write it out.



What on Earth would the debates look like? "Republican Mitt Romney, you have the floor." "Thank you. I'm a severe conservative." "Independent Mitt Romney, you're next." "Thanks. I'm a severe moderate."
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2012, 08:34:41 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 11:52:52 AM »

[ ] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] W. Mitt Romney (I)
[ ] W. M. Romney (I)
[ ] Willard M. Romney (Socialist Labor)
[ ] Willard Mitt Romney (Constitution)
[ ] Mittens Romney (Silly Hats Party)
[ ] Gromit Romney (Libertarian)
[ ] Tree-Loving Romney (Green)
[ ] MITTBOT 2.0 (MICROSOFT VISTA)
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 01:21:59 PM »

[ ] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] W. Mitt Romney (I)
[ ] W. M. Romney (I)
[ ] Willard M. Romney (Socialist Labor)
[ ] Willard Mitt Romney (Constitution)
[ ] Mittens Romney (Silly Hats Party)
[ ] Gromit Romney (Libertarian)
[ ] Tree-Loving Romney (Green)
[ ] MITTBOT 2.0 (MICROSOFT VISTA)

[ ] Milton Romney (Reform)
[ ] Mitchell Romney (Americans Elect)
[ ] Mitt W. Romney (Justice)
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 02:19:37 PM »

[ ] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] W. Mitt Romney (I)
[ ] W. M. Romney (I)
[ ] Willard M. Romney (Socialist Labor)
[ ] Willard Mitt Romney (Constitution)
[ ] Mittens Romney (Silly Hats Party)
[ ] Gromit Romney (Libertarian)
[ ] Tree-Loving Romney (Green)
[ ] MITTBOT 2.0 (MICROSOFT VISTA)

[ ] Milton Romney (Reform)
[ ] Mitchell Romney (Americans Elect)
[ ] Mitt W. Romney (Justice)
Mitt Willard Romney (Connecticut for Lieberman)
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 02:21:57 PM »

*sigh* welcome to this board for the next four months...
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 03:08:31 PM »


The background is perfect. It looks like a purply temporal time void has opened up for the sole purpose of 2012 Mitt Romney debating 1994 Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 03:29:45 PM »

The background is perfect. It looks like a purply temporal time void has opened up for the sole purpose of 2012 Mitt Romney debating 1994 Mitt Romney.

This scenario is now unavoidable. The Mittosis has reached critical levels.

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 03:35:59 PM »

This deserves some sort of "awesome thread" award.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 04:16:04 PM »

The background is perfect. It looks like a purply temporal time void has opened up for the sole purpose of 2012 Mitt Romney debating 1994 Mitt Romney.

This scenario is now unavoidable. The Mittosis has reached critical levels.



Is Mittosis performed like convention biological organisms undergo mitosis? Or is it more like an exponential increase in production capability, producing rates similar to mitosis?

Picture 1 is Mittosis Theory 1; Picture 2 is Mittosis Theory 2:


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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 04:23:00 PM »

[ ] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] W. Mitt Romney (I)
[ ] W. M. Romney (I)
[ ] Willard M. Romney (Socialist Labor)
[ ] Willard Mitt Romney (Constitution)
[ ] Mittens Romney (Silly Hats Party)
[ ] Gromit Romney (Libertarian)
[ ] Tree-Loving Romney (Green)
[ ] MITTBOT 2.0 (MICROSOFT VISTA)

[ ] Milton Romney (Reform)
[ ] Mitchell Romney (Americans Elect)
[ ] Mitt W. Romney (Justice)
Mitt Willard Romney (Connecticut for Lieberman)
[] Mitt Romney (American Third Position Party)
[] Mitt Romney (CPUSA)
[] Mitt Romney (The John Bolton/Allen West Association for the Advancement of Hawkish Policy Party]
[]Mitt Romney (Write-in)
[]Opebo (Write-in)
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 04:39:38 PM »

[ ] Barack Obama (D)
[ ] Mitt Romney (R)
[ ] W. Mitt Romney (I)
[ ] W. M. Romney (I)
[ ] Willard M. Romney (Socialist Labor)
[ ] Willard Mitt Romney (Constitution)
[ ] Mittens Romney (Silly Hats Party)
[ ] Gromit Romney (Libertarian)
[ ] Tree-Loving Romney (Green)
[ ] MITTBOT 2.0 (MICROSOFT VISTA)

[ ] Milton Romney (Reform)
[ ] Mitchell Romney (Americans Elect)
[ ] Mitt W. Romney (Justice)
Mitt Willard Romney (Connecticut for Lieberman)
[] Mitt Romney (American Third Position Party)
[] Mitt Romney (CPUSA)
[] Mitt Romney (The John Bolton/Allen West Association for the Advancement of Hawkish Policy Party]
[]Mitt Romney (Write-in)
[]Opebo (Write-in)

[ ] Mitt Romney (Blue Enigma)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Modern Whig)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Republican Moderate)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Alaskan Independence)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Independence)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Aloha Aina)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Moderate)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Populist)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Ecology Democracy)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Grassroots)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Conservative)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Marijuana Reform)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Right To Life)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Taxpayers)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Progressive)
[ ] Mitt Romney (United Citizens)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Liberty Union)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Independent Greens)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Tax Revolt)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Progressive Dane)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Charter)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Rent Is 2 Damn High)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Working Families)
[ ] Mitt Romney (New Progressive)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Popular Democratic)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Puerto Rican Independence)
[ ] Mitt Romney (Movimiento Unión Soberanista)

Really, the only party that he cannot contort his values enough to run in is the Anti-Mormon Party (existed 1841-1844 in Illinois).
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