France 2012: Official Results Thread

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

I don't see why anyone's making a big deal about this. The differences between Hollande and Sarkozy so far as policies goes are infinitesimal, and we knew that Hollande was going to win the minute he won the runoff.

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lol Flanby will be President. Haha. Epic fail for the Poison Dwarf, defeated by the guy who has the appearance of a creme caramel.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Sarkozy out, now all those people of which the main job was to hit on him will have to, eventually, try to do some 'politics' now...

They have totally irresponsibly put all problems on Sarkozy during years and years (lol, kinda even before than he was president), and promised (and still promising right now with Hollande speech) a lot of change only thanks to the removal of a man. Well, thankfully Hollande remains more humble than Sarkozy was in 2007, but still, they shouldn't play like they did with the problems and the hopes of people, Sarkozy played a lot with xenophobia feeling, the Left played a lot with the hopes and problems of people, if they can't have a success, the backlash could be terrible.

That being said, it's indeed pleasant(!) to see all those poor bad clowns out.

I don't see why anyone's making a big deal about this. The differences between Hollande and Sarkozy so far as policies goes are infinitesimal, and we knew that Hollande was going to win the minute he won the runoff.

again:

...get the feeling of getting rid of Bush 43. Then that's the French version.

[Lief 🗽]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Creme caramel is delicious.

Also this is all very good news. Hollande seems like a good guy.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

lol Flanby will be President. Haha.

Hollande can actually (and purposedly) be funny (and doesn't need 20 guys to write his jokes , he makes it alone), well, the main good thing of this election might be the psychological effect, oh gosh, would become far less tense, at least a for a few coming days...

[minionofmidas]

Cantal seemed more interesting.

Oh, sure. But already mentioned. Haute-Loire as well.

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And you're still capable of making halfway intelligent comments about elections. Quite a trooper.

But only halfway.

Also, buzz starting to wear off. Hmmm... I still have some applewine kicking around the house... also an unopened bottle of... no, better not to go there. Gotta work tomorrow. (Danish Aquavit, in case you wondered, but I won't.)

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I have a question- I read Hollande divorced Segolene Royal...did that cause any dynamic? Did Royal endorse him?

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Why isn't Belfort in the Alsace région?

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I have a question- I read Hollande divorced Segolene Royal...did that cause any dynamic? Did Royal endorse him?

She surprisingly turned sane, and yes, did, she even has been one his biggest fighters.

[minionofmidas]

I have a question- I read Hollande divorced Segolene Royal...did that cause any dynamic? Did Royal endorse him?

She surprisingly turned sane, and yes, did, she even has been one his biggest fighters.

The separation was in 2007, of course, but yeah the fact that they used to be an item is one of those things you try to wrap your head around, fail, and then forget all about until clarence reminds you of it.

[MaxQue]

Why isn't Belfort in the Alsace région?

It was, but, because of their "heroic resistance" in 1870 war, Prussia led them to France, while taking the rest of Alsace, if I remember well.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Castres is always so national:

Hollande 51,2
Sarkozy 48,8

Oh, Sarkozy just confirmed he will never run for Président again, ah well, if in the future we get MLP as the biggest figurehead fo the Right/Far-Right, who knows, maybe a lot of people call him to 'pleaaase come back!', hmm, would still be surprising, nobody imagines calling Bush 43 back, right? Then, it would be defnitely over for him, once again:

[rob in cal]

Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I have a question- I read Hollande divorced Segolene Royal...did that cause any dynamic? Did Royal endorse him?

Hollande and Royal were never married in first place.

[big bad fab]

Back again after drinking some celebratory cider from Brittany. Very nice as well.

So, anyway, a point of interest already: Hollande carries the Territoire de Belfort.

Not by far.
Sarkozy's map seems to be (again) more FN than in the first round.

Sarkozy won Manche only by 50.1 !

[minionofmidas]

Back again after drinking some celebratory cider from Brittany. Very nice as well.

So, anyway, a point of interest already: Hollande carries the Territoire de Belfort.

Not by far.
Sarkozy's map seems to be (again) more FN than in the first round.

Sarkozy won Manche only by 50.1 !

Lol.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

All I really remember about this is that both candidates are ridiculously racist against the Roma (as most of the population of Europe seems to still be for some inexplicable reason).

[Antonio the Sixth]

Back again after drinking some celebratory cider from Brittany. Very nice as well.

So, anyway, a point of interest already: Hollande carries the Territoire de Belfort.

Not by far.
Sarkozy's map seems to be (again) more FN than in the first round.

Sarkozy won Manche only by 50.1 !

You are probably happy, Fab.

"Entre 51 et 52 pour Hollande, ce serait une grosse déception et un Mélenchon et des Verts revenus dans le jeu législatif, ainsi qu’une droite soulagée et plus à même d’affronter le problème FN."

After all, maybe Buisson was right : France is structurally right-wing.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

MLP definitely won the battle of ideas (with a big help of Sarkozy), PS inflexed its traditional positions on immigration, at least in the rhetoric, we have to see what happens in real now, and Hollande globally said something like he would control immigration more and just take what we need in term of employment.

I don't know if there is a serious analysis about the actual report of MLP voters so far, but the point being that she played a lot on the defeat of the Right, so some people might have done a strategical vote, but not sure it would be that big...

[Democratic Hawk]

Hollande falls not far short of adding what seems to have never been pink (at least, not since the President's of the Fifth Republic were directly elected); Sarkozy winning Manche 50.1 - 49.9

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

All I really remember about this is that both candidates are ridiculously racist against

No, you will never find any racist word of attitude from Hollande.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Pas-de-Calais is 56% for Hollande.

[Lief 🗽]

So are these numbers going to hold at Hollande doing significantly better than the exit polls predicted? Because it looks like the remaining areas aren't that pro-Sarkozy.

ed: and as I say that a big dump comes in and Hollande drops to 53.7%

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

All I really remember about this is that both candidates are ridiculously racist against

No, you will never find any racist word of attitude from Hollande.

I seem to recall Hollande trying to outdo Sarkozy on extravagant promises to evict Roma from such-and-such a place at least once. Am I misremembering? (I hope I am, because I otherwise quite like Hollande.)

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Oh wow, all those South-West dpts, a lot between 58 and 65, South-West still at it! yay!