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« on: April 24, 2012, 03:17:44 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 03:26:16 AM »

Democracy in action!
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 07:49:29 AM »

When OWS says "the 1%", in regards to campaign finance, they mean those 46.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 10:53:26 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 11:22:53 AM »

But remember guys, America is the greatest country in the history of the world, precisely because of our love of democracy.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 11:32:33 AM »

The title of of course wrong. 46 individuals and groups of course constitute more than 46 people.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 11:38:36 AM »

Corporations aren't people anymore?
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 11:47:39 AM »


Labor unions are not 1 person, no. They are groups of people.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 11:55:35 AM »

But remember guys, America is the greatest country in the history of the world, precisely because of our love of democracy.

Democracy is actually starting to become a bad word among far right circles.  It implies the Democratic Party has any sort of constitutional ground to exist.  This is a Constitutional Republic, good sir, for Republicans only.

I'm surprised Krazen hasn't jumped on this new trend yet.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 11:57:51 AM »

But remember guys, America is the greatest country in the history of the world, precisely because of our love of democracy.

Democracy is actually starting to become a bad word among far right circles.  It implies the Democratic Party has any sort of constitutional ground to exist.  This is a Constitutional Republic, good sir, for Republicans only.

I'm surprised Krazen hasn't jumped on this new trend yet.

Not that much would be left from the "Constitutional Republic" if those people had total power.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 12:16:28 PM »

But remember guys, America is the greatest country in the history of the world, precisely because of our love of democracy.

Democracy is actually starting to become a bad word among far right circles.  It implies the Democratic Party has any sort of constitutional ground to exist.  This is a Constitutional Republic, good sir, for Republicans only.

I'm surprised Krazen hasn't jumped on this new trend yet.

Actually, it's the liberals over the last few years who seek to disenfranchise the people they deem as 'ignorant' on whatever issues that those same liberals decide.

A great example is the sanctity of traditional marriage.

The liberal position of course gives them dictatorial power.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2012, 12:57:09 PM »

Krazey is absolutely right here of course.  This story is in fact evidence of the liberals' firm grip on campaign finance abuse, not conservatives.  And something about gay marriage again.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2012, 01:22:32 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 01:26:12 PM by Nathan »

I like how it's not allowing certain folk to get married to each other that's standing up for freedom and allowing them to that's 'dictatorial' on this issue. How's that individual responsibility and personal freedom stuff going?
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2012, 01:25:34 PM »

Before anyone tries to make the disingenous arguement that these donations include a significant amount of union money rather than being almost entirely from a handful of old rich white dudes, let me quote this snippet from the article:

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That's right: Sheldon Adelson has personally donated over twice as much as every labor union in the country.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 01:30:16 PM »

Clearly, the fact that Newt Gingrich is now the presumptive Republican nominee and flattening Obama in the polls shows that Sheldon Adelson's millions spell the end of American democracy.
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 01:31:58 PM »

Before anyone tries to make the disingenous arguement that these donations include a significant amount of union money rather than being almost entirely from a handful of old rich white dudes, let me quote this snippet from the article:

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That's right: Sheldon Adelson has personally donated over twice as much as every labor union in the country.

At the minimum, Sheldon and Miriam Adelson of course count as two people, rather than one. Which would of course still make the OP title off.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 01:32:46 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 01:35:38 PM by Nathan »

Before anyone tries to make the disingenous arguement that these donations include a significant amount of union money rather than being almost entirely from a handful of old rich white dudes, let me quote this snippet from the article:

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That's right: Sheldon Adelson has personally donated over twice as much as every labor union in the country.

At the minimum, Sheldon and Miriam Adelson of course count as two people, rather than one. Which would of course still make the OP title off.

Do you honestly not realize what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie you present yourself as or do you just not care?
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 01:37:40 PM »

Krazey is absolutely right here of course.  This story is in fact evidence of the liberals' firm grip on campaign finance abuse, not conservatives.  And something about gay marriage again.

Certainly liberal candidate Barack Obama was instrumental in demolishing the public campaign financing system.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2012, 01:41:11 PM »

Krazey is absolutely right here of course.  This story is in fact evidence of the liberals' firm grip on campaign finance abuse, not conservatives.  And something about gay marriage again.

Certainly liberal candidate Barack Obama was instrumental in demolishing the public campaign financing system.

I can't tell if that's misplaced sarcasm or just plain old stupidity.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2012, 01:42:52 PM »

Before anyone tries to make the disingenous arguement that these donations include a significant amount of union money rather than being almost entirely from a handful of old rich white dudes, let me quote this snippet from the article:

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That's right: Sheldon Adelson has personally donated over twice as much as every labor union in the country.

At the minimum, Sheldon and Miriam Adelson of course count as two people, rather than one. Which would of course still make the OP title off.

Do you honestly not realize what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie you present yourself as or do you just not care?

I am really not aware of what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie is. Is this a clever way of you calling me names?
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2012, 01:46:02 PM »

Before anyone tries to make the disingenous arguement that these donations include a significant amount of union money rather than being almost entirely from a handful of old rich white dudes, let me quote this snippet from the article:

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That's right: Sheldon Adelson has personally donated over twice as much as every labor union in the country.

At the minimum, Sheldon and Miriam Adelson of course count as two people, rather than one. Which would of course still make the OP title off.

Do you honestly not realize what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie you present yourself as or do you just not care?

I am really not aware of what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie is. Is this a clever way of you calling me names?

Yeah, Krazen, you silly waffle, I suppose it is.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2012, 01:47:57 PM »

Do you honestly not realize what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie you present yourself as or do you just not care?

I am really not aware of what a soulless bean-counting p-zombie is. Is this a clever way of you calling me names?

Fixed.  There rarely is a clever way of name calling, especially over the Internet.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2012, 01:49:43 PM »

Is the fact that a few, wealthy people select who will be president a new fact to some people here? Do you actually think your vote for president matters? If so I applaud your idealism but shake my head at the naivete.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2012, 02:11:35 PM »

Clearly, the fact that Newt Gingrich is now the presumptive Republican nominee and flattening Obama in the polls shows that Sheldon Adelson's millions spell the end of American democracy.

And? What's your point, that it's ok because that one guy didn't succeed? Same goes for Krazen, what is your point? That Democrats are worse? Who cares, both sides are absolutely horrendous regarding campaign finance. What is the purpose in defending your party in a battle akin to cancer vs AIDS?
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2012, 02:46:12 PM »

Clearly, the fact that Newt Gingrich is now the presumptive Republican nominee and flattening Obama in the polls shows that Sheldon Adelson's millions spell the end of American democracy.

And? What's your point, that it's ok because that one guy didn't succeed?

It's wormyguy.

Who cares, both sides are absolutely horrendous regarding campaign finance. What is the purpose in defending your party in a battle akin to cancer vs AIDS?

Nobody's saying that either side is innocent, but you can't really say that they're equally as bad as each other.  As the article and Bacon King have pointed out, Republicans form the lion's share of these megadonors.  Nobody can argue with that (except krazey, who doesn't count).
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