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opebo
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« on: April 28, 2012, 12:27:44 PM »

He was obviously referring to starting a business.

The point being that this is an option available only to a tiny privileged elite, wg.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 08:37:24 PM »


Come on buddy, everyone in that photo is a rich kid.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 08:48:17 AM »

This type of debate is actually really irritating me. This is the class warfare we are warned about. Why should anyone have to be defensive about any of this?

Being born into money is nothing to be ashamed of.

It isn't anything to be 'ashamed' of, but one should be aware that everyone without money aught to hate you for it, and should try to vote to get you off their backs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 09:29:10 AM »

This is so typical of hack Democrats who hate Romney with such a passion that they are willing to take almost everything he says out of context and blow it out of all proportion.

Oh, okay. So if you post an article about Obama then we can say "This is so typical of hack Republicans who hate Obama with such a passion that they are willing to take almost everything he says out of context and blow it out of all proportion."?

The basis of this thread is nothing less than trolling.

It is now trolling to criticize the candidate of the opposing party?
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 02:14:55 PM »

...because Romney didn't perfectly streamline exactly what he said, the Dems pounce.

I can't wait till Joe Biden gets into the thick of campaigning. Then we'll see how defensive the liberals are too.

You miss the point - Romney is criticized for this because of who he is: a world-bestriding, society-dominating rich: pretty much the equivalent of a Duke or Prince in our modern society.  Biden is just about as close to nobody as a former Senator/current VP can be (and anyway is only the VP, not the actual candidate).

Being rich makes Romney the enemy, so that everything he says is judged more stringently.  Arguably the same should have happened to Bush, and did to some extent to his father, but the recent Bush somehow managed to pretend to be a commoner.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 11:16:53 AM »

I don't know what's more ridiculous. That the poorest families have $500 sitting around to lend to some random startup, or that said startup has much of a chance of success with only a $500 loan funding it and the person starting it not having the right connections.

I could imagine starting a business with $500,000 in the US, not $500.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 11:26:35 AM »

Rich parents puzzle me. One would think they would say, hey, I will pay for your education as long as it seems productive forever, but after that, you don't get a dime baby, and the estate other than for some modest amount will all be going into a foundation or given to charity.

So, why would they bother having kids then if it just creates more miserable poors?  I suppose if the purpose of having children is some sort of sadism this makes sense, but usually people want their kids to sort of 'carry on' the 'family escutcheon' as a kind of representative of oneself after one dies.  Who wants their escutcheon carried by some poor craven worker bee?  It would be repellant to this class of people and an obvious humiliation to anyone.

I think perhaps you just don't understand breeders, Torie.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 08:36:11 PM »

So, why would they bother having kids then if it just creates more miserable poors?  I suppose if the purpose of having children is some sort of sadism this makes sense, but usually people want their kids to sort of 'carry on' the 'family escutcheon' as a kind of representative of oneself after one dies.  Who wants their escutcheon carried by some poor craven worker bee?  It would be repellant to this class of people and an obvious humiliation to anyone.

...the idea one would think is to raise kids who will be at once happy and fulfilled productive citizens with a sense of purpose to give meaning to their lives, and given all of their advantages, make a contribution to making this mortal coil a better place.

So your saying this delusion of 'meaning' automatically results from being a suffering toiler?  It hardly seems a recommendation of the condition.

The idea of creating some sort of "dynasty" I guess is one of those upper class  concepts which frankly rather nausiates me. I guess that is an aesthetic preference.

Well that's rather ungrateful of you, being a rich kid yourself, Torie.  Try to give your progenitors the proper thanks - your position in life is due to your privilege and advantages.

But the destructive effects on kids with a sense of entitlement and an expectancy is not about aesthetics so much as simply a real world on the ground observation. It is an empirical statement in short. 

It could hardly be any more destructive than the grinding misery and humiliation of getting up early every day and going to a job, Torie! 
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