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« on: May 02, 2012, 05:40:34 PM »

It's a struggle rather than a revolution.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 06:19:33 PM »

The "revisionist" reformers were wiser than Marx in that the established order evolves over time instead of being held firmly in place by a conspiring, ruling class of elites until they are usurped in a violent revolution. With all due respect I would also state that socialists who still retain faith in the primacy of class struggle and the allocation of economic capital in explaining all of the problems of society have their heads shoved woefully far up their asses. I do respect Marx as a bold thinker and a great contributor to the social sciences, but not all of his ideas aged well.
I think this a subtle jab at the post above yours.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 06:22:26 PM »

Tweed, I think I asked you this before, but how do you reconcile your revolution/seizing the means of production with the deindustrialization of the First World and the increasing shift to service sector work?  Seizing the means of fast food production?
Q: Can IT unionize? A: Of course, seize the Internets/shut everything down so that nobody else can do productive work until their demands are met. De-industrialization doesn't mean you have to have labor/left-wingers lose relevance. I think IT is the best example of de-industrialization.
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