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George W. Bush
 
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Bill Clinton
 
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George Bush
 
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Richard Nixon
 
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Lyndon Johnson
 
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John F. Kennedy
 
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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: May 03, 2012, 05:57:28 PM »

Since now he has most of his first term under his belt, I think we have more to judge him by.

I'm still going to say Clinton.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 06:07:36 PM »

Clinton, as the closest predecessor who's not Dubya.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 06:09:58 PM »

Dubya.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 06:52:14 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 07:07:26 PM »

I preferred calling him "Chimpy," but that might have unfortunate connotations in this case.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 07:09:24 PM »

Bush: Better than him.
Clinton: Better than him, though that has more to do with my disdain for Clinton.
Bush I: Better than him.
Reagan: Better than him.
Carter: Slightly better than him.
Ford: Better than him.
Nixon: About equal.
Johnson: Johnson was the best president of the second half of the 20th century.

So one of those two.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 07:13:43 PM »

Bush: Far better, obviously.
Clinton: Far better. Not a Clinton fan.
Bush I: Somewhat better.
Reagan: Better, from my political perspective.
Carter: Far better.
Ford: Better, sure.
Nixon: Nixon was an unbelievably awful President. Far, far, better, as is almost everyone else on the list.
Johnson: Not an LBJ admirer by any means, but he had a lot of commendable, important achievements along with all the horrible, horrible mistakes.

So I'll go with Johnson. Mind you, considering the competition that's kind of damning with faint praise. WinkTongue
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 07:16:18 PM »

The Obama-Clinton comparison is fun, especially because the black guy "acts white" and the white guy "acts black." Tongue

Ok, that might have been mildly offensive. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 07:18:23 PM »

Clinton. Snowstalker, you prefer Nixon to Carter?
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 07:21:14 PM »

Clinton. Snowstalker, you prefer Nixon to Carter?

Snowstalker subscribes to regrettable revisionism that holds that Nixon was the last "liberal" President, I believe. Sad
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 07:21:59 PM »

Clinton. Snowstalker, you prefer Nixon to Carter?

Ideologically, Carter, but in terms of what they got done probably Nixon. Hate him for escalating Vietnam, but some of his domestic reforms were good and he did help foster quite a bit of cooperation between parties (granted, not in the most moral of ways).

Carter is possibly the best person ever to be president, though you need a certain level of amorality to be in Washington, or you'll be chewed up and spit out like he was.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 07:22:57 PM »

Clinton. Snowstalker, you prefer Nixon to Carter?

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BUT OSHA, CLEAN AIR, AND...OH WHAT'S THE THIRD ONE




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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 07:26:21 PM »

Also ABMT and increased enforcement of desegregation.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 07:30:22 PM »

Clinton. Snowstalker, you prefer Nixon to Carter?

Snowstalker subscribes to regrettable revisionism that holds that Nixon was the last "liberal" President, I believe. Sad

Snowstalker (and other leftists of the UnionsFirst! bloc of posters) are terribly wrong because Nixon was our first modern far right President. Compare his approach and "body of work" (read: damage done) to Reagan's or Dubya's.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 07:34:54 PM »

I don't think Nixon was a liberal at all; he was only liberal in comparison to the Goldwaterite wing of the party. However, Nixon was willing to make important domestic reforms, making liberal actions with conservative rhetoric.
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 08:33:01 PM »

I concur with Oakvale. LBJ it is.
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2012, 04:08:07 AM »

Why do so many posters think that Obama is better than Carter(Republicans need not apply because you shouldn't be reading that far down the list, you are probably in the wrong party then, I'll go ahead and apologize for being exclusive).
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2012, 04:40:21 AM »

People who seriously think Dubya or Clinton were better presidents than Obama make me wonder.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 04:54:05 AM »
« Edited: May 04, 2012, 04:59:32 AM by politicus »

Ike. Regarding Johnson the good and the bad outweigh each other.
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 09:28:19 AM »

Carter.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 12:32:56 PM »
« Edited: May 05, 2012, 12:35:21 PM by True Conservative »

None

(I was going to vote for the first option, but "best president since W" doesn't make sense since he's the only one.)
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 12:39:26 PM »

People who seriously think Dubya or Clinton were better presidents than Obama make me wonder.
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2012, 12:46:26 PM »

Minus Watergate, President Obama has been the best president since Richard Nixon as far as his accomplishments go. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2012, 01:09:10 PM »

People who seriously think Dubya or Clinton were better presidents than Obama make me wonder.

NDAA alone makes Obama far more of a tyrant than Bush ever was. Add to that the corporatist sell out that healthcare reform begins, and you understand why it's easy to criticize him from the left, imo.
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 01:28:50 PM »

Why do so many posters think that Obama is better than Carter(Republicans need not apply because you shouldn't be reading that far down the list, you are probably in the wrong party then, I'll go ahead and apologize for being exclusive).

It was a hard call for me. In terms of their ideas I like Carter quite a bit on a lot of issues but he seemed to get a lot less done during his term in office than Johnson and it bothered me that he was pro-life, tinkered with price controls during the energy crisis, and boycotted the 1980 Olympic Games in Moskva. My strongest temptation to select Carter rather than LBJ was over the handling of Vietnam but I still haven't entirely made up my mind on this particular topic. Given a bit of persuasion I could probably be convinced to go with good 'ole Jimmy.
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