Obama beats a federal prisoner by less than 20% in the West Virginia D. Primary.
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 18, 2024, 04:37:59 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2012 Elections
  Obama beats a federal prisoner by less than 20% in the West Virginia D. Primary.
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4
Author Topic: Obama beats a federal prisoner by less than 20% in the West Virginia D. Primary.  (Read 8850 times)
The Mikado
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,736


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2012, 12:19:58 AM »

He stopped being a superhero in 1982?  Was there a kryptonite epidemic that year or something?
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2012, 12:27:53 AM »

There's still an additional state that might join OK and WV:

Arkansas

There's not only "Uncommitted" on the ballot, but also John Wolfe.

Obama might get only 50-60% here as well.

I'm hoping that at least one state will actually vote against Obama in the primary... that would just be awesome Tongue
Logged
○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└
jfern
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 53,704


Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2012, 12:28:32 AM »

So this guy is basically a white version of Alvin Greene?
Logged
Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,178
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2012, 12:29:30 AM »

Why is this guy even allowed to be on the ballot ?

Aren't prisoners in the US usually not even allowed to vote ?
Logged
Eraserhead
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,458
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2012, 04:30:44 AM »

There's still an additional state that might join OK and WV:

Arkansas

There's not only "Uncommitted" on the ballot, but also John Wolfe.

Obama might get only 50-60% here as well.

At least John Wolfe is actually to the left of Obama (and, you know, not an inmate).
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,669
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 05:10:47 AM »

This is actually pretty funny. I mean, you could look at it from a more serious point of view, the way in which it shows the distance between the political system and people in an economically distressed region and so on, or you could just sit back and grin inanely at 40% for a federal prisoner against an incumbent President. Let's do the latter. Grin
Logged
Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,178
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 05:13:32 AM »

40% of WV Democrats would vote for a guy named John Spiderman (who turns out to be a black drug dealer), just to piss off Obama. Because they have no clue who this Spiderman guy is.
Logged
Modernity has failed us
20RP12
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 38,318
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.29, S: -7.13

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2012, 05:26:45 AM »

I'm laughing so hard right now.
Logged
Snowstalker Mk. II
Snowstalker
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,414
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -7.10, S: -4.35

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2012, 08:11:02 AM »

These are the people Snowstalker wants Democrats to cater to.

No one turned out, and Obama will mathematically win about 70% or more of Democrats in 2012. "Catering" doesn't necessarily mean adopting social conservatism; it means waiting until the GOP becomes more socially liberal/libertarian (which is inevitable) and then moving more towards economic left-populism through a coalition of minorities and working-class whites.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2012, 08:11:54 AM »

I never had any doubts Romney is going to landslide in West Virginia. Simply because he is not Obama.
Logged
Modernity has failed us
20RP12
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 38,318
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.29, S: -7.13

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2012, 08:13:26 AM »

Did Judd win any delegates?
Logged
Snowstalker Mk. II
Snowstalker
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,414
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -7.10, S: -4.35

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2012, 08:14:20 AM »

Obama isn't winning a single county in November.

Probably not.  He won 7 counties in 2008, including Morgantown's (WVU) Monongalia, Jefferson in the Eastern Panhandle and some Southern West Virginia counties that have voted Democratic for decades.  My guess is he'll still win a few counties.  It will be interesting to see if the coal country holdouts that voted for Obama in 2008 flip this time, given Obama's anti-coal policies. 

If they didn't flip in 2008, they're not flipping this year. Given current polling and Obama's more populist campaign, he'll get 44-45% in West Virginia, which obviously is bad for a Democrat but marginally better than 2008.
Logged
WhyteRain
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 949
Political Matrix
E: 6.19, S: -2.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2012, 08:42:42 AM »

There are 180 electoral votes between the Potomac and Rio Grande rivers; Romney will get every one of them.  That means he needs only 89 more (a 269-269 tie will give the GOP nominee the win in a Congressional vote).
Logged
mondale84
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,307
United States


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -3.30

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2012, 08:51:59 AM »

Has someone put this hilarious map together?

BTW...I'm working on a DEM primaries map from this year...even though the info for some states is hard to come by...so I'll be posting that soon...
Logged
Meeker
meekermariner
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,164


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2012, 10:20:05 AM »


If he did they'll be taken away (just like the non-Obama delegates in Oklahoma and Louisiana).
Logged
timothyinMD
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 438


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2012, 10:33:52 AM »

And you guys wonder why I said Obama wont even break 30% in West Virginia this November.

The 41% for Judd is wholly dislike of Obama.  Pretty funny.

Mingo County has 17K registered Dems and only 3K registered Repubs.  Closed primary, so of course Dems have a higher turnout.  Statewide it's 53% Dem and just 27% Repub.

Obama had been the first Democrat to lose Mingo since McGovern in 72. 
Logged
Stranger in a strange land
strangeland
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 10,164
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2012, 10:51:46 AM »

There are 180 electoral votes between the Potomac and Rio Grande rivers; Romney will get every one of them.  That means he needs only 89 more (a 269-269 tie will give the GOP nominee the win in a Congressional vote).

Right now, I wouldn't count on Romney winning Virginia, and it's very difficult to see a path to 270 (or 269) for him without it.
Logged
ajb
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 869
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2012, 10:54:17 AM »

There are 180 electoral votes between the Potomac and Rio Grande rivers; Romney will get every one of them.  That means he needs only 89 more (a 269-269 tie will give the GOP nominee the win in a Congressional vote).

Right now, I wouldn't count on Romney winning Virginia, and it's very difficult to see a path to 270 (or 269) for him without it.
I wouldn't count on Romney winning NC or FL, either. If you want to say he's favored, in spite of the current polling, I can see that argument. But they're not sure things, by any means.
Logged
mondale84
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,307
United States


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -3.30

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2012, 10:57:12 AM »

There are 180 electoral votes between the Potomac and Rio Grande rivers; Romney will get every one of them.  That means he needs only 89 more (a 269-269 tie will give the GOP nominee the win in a Congressional vote).

Non-sequitur
Logged
Snowstalker Mk. II
Snowstalker
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,414
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -7.10, S: -4.35

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2012, 12:49:22 PM »

And you guys wonder why I said Obama wont even break 30% in West Virginia this November.

Not that low. Based on polling, I don't see him below 40-41% barring utter collapse. Based on Obama's numbers in these counties in 2008 and the general, he really has nothing to lose other than a guaranteed base. What's really needed is for Manchin to publicly support Obama (he privately does already, but he's clearly too much of a coward). He'll still win easily given his overall popularity and that Byrd was among Obama's greatest supporters, but clearly he's a selfish jerk who wants to win 70% instead of 65%.
Logged
LiberalJunkie
LiberalJunkie99
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 670
Canada


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2012, 01:50:21 PM »

Anyone have a map for this?
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2012, 01:54:27 PM »

Ah, West Virginia...
Logged
timothyinMD
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 438


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2012, 02:53:26 PM »

Obama isn't winning a single county in November.

Probably not.  He won 7 counties in 2008, including Morgantown's (WVU) Monongalia, Jefferson in the Eastern Panhandle and some Southern West Virginia counties that have voted Democratic for decades.  My guess is he'll still win a few counties.  It will be interesting to see if the coal country holdouts that voted for Obama in 2008 flip this time, given Obama's anti-coal policies. 

If they didn't flip in 2008, they're not flipping this year. Given current polling and Obama's more populist campaign, he'll get 44-45% in West Virginia, which obviously is bad for a Democrat but marginally better than 2008.

44-45%  I actually laughed out loud when I read that
Logged
Snowstalker Mk. II
Snowstalker
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,414
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -7.10, S: -4.35

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2012, 02:59:53 PM »

That seems completely reasonable, given that it's barely an increase from 2008.
Logged
The world will shine with light in our nightmare
Just Passion Through
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 45,257
Norway


Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -7.48

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2012, 03:06:01 PM »

Didn't even know it was legal for inmates to be on the ballot...
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.06 seconds with 12 queries.