The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

[Kitteh]

I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

Yeah, there's a lot of reasons to blame Bush (or, more accurately, neoliberal economic policies under Bush and his conservative Democratic predecessor) for the economic collapse of 2008 and a lot of reasons to oppose the Bush tax cuts, but to say that the Bush tax cuts directly caused the 2008 recession is ridiculous, and the post you linked is wrong but not totally absurd or ignorant, and I don't want this thread to turn into:

[Paul Kemp]

I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

Perhaps but it doesn't mean the rest of it isn't awful.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Negative for the same but opposite reason I think highly of Michael Vick. Despite Vick's obvious negatives, I think he's had an overall positive impact on the people who derive value from the things he does and says and the people they impact. The exact opposite could be said of the cult of character surrounding Jesus Christ.

That anybody could directly imply with seeming sincerity that he has a higher opinion of Michael Vick than of Jesus is...

[politicus]

Negative for the same but opposite reason I think highly of Michael Vick. Despite Vick's obvious negatives, I think he's had an overall positive impact on the people who derive value from the things he does and says and the people they impact. The exact opposite could be said of the cult of character surrounding Jesus Christ.

That anybody could directly imply with seeming sincerity that he has a higher opinion of Michael Vick than of Jesus is...

...even from a non-Christian standpoint, that is whacked.

I read it as tongue in cheek.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I sincerely hope that's a fair reading.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

HP, just like anyone else who lead a cult.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

In fairness, he explains and qualifies that later on in the thread.

[Napoleon]

This is an absolute nightmare.  Sanford obviously is clueless to the fact that he can never win an election again, and we get Stephen Colbert's sister in Congress.  Isn't one comedian (albeit an election thief) in Washington enough?
But in all seriousness, since I believe SC is open primary, I expect a lot of Democrats to cross over to suplort Sanford.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

President Pierce delivered one of the most eloquent veto addresses in the history of the American Presidency. He vetoed the Land-Grant Bill For Indigent Insane Persons on May 3, 1854, by stating that even though a piece of legislation may be popular that does not make it Constitutional. "I have been compelled to resist the deep sympathies of my own heart in favor of the humane purpose sought to be accomplished," Pierce wrote as he argued that the bill violated section eight of Article I of the United States Constitution. The very idea that a president would veto a popular bill because it was unconstitutional makes me have a high opinion of President Pierce.

He also vetoed such unconstitutional waste as a bill that would benefit only the Des Moines River Valley, the St. Clair Flats and the port of Baltimore. In vetoing popular legislation Pierce upheld classically liberal traditions of local support but alienated his own Democratic base leading to his defeat at the hands of good old boy James Buchanan who would usher in four years of utter corruption and waste in the federal government. Pierce was an excellent president.

libertarians

[Antonio the Sixth]

President Pierce delivered one of the most eloquent veto addresses in the history of the American Presidency. He vetoed the Land-Grant Bill For Indigent Insane Persons on May 3, 1854, by stating that even though a piece of legislation may be popular that does not make it Constitutional. "I have been compelled to resist the deep sympathies of my own heart in favor of the humane purpose sought to be accomplished," Pierce wrote as he argued that the bill violated section eight of Article I of the United States Constitution. The very idea that a president would veto a popular bill because it was unconstitutional makes me have a high opinion of President Pierce.

He also vetoed such unconstitutional waste as a bill that would benefit only the Des Moines River Valley, the St. Clair Flats and the port of Baltimore. In vetoing popular legislation Pierce upheld classically liberal traditions of local support but alienated his own Democratic base leading to his defeat at the hands of good old boy James Buchanan who would usher in four years of utter corruption and waste in the federal government. Pierce was an excellent president.

libertarians

Sigh...

[Хahar 🤔]

With that name, I imagine the administrator from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Yeah, this just shows he has actual strong beliefs rather than basing his views on personal emotions.

[Rooney]

Sigh...

My apologies that I do not hold the same opinion as you on President Pierce. I shall strive to do better in the future.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

An excellent president.

He supported the Confederacy.

Libertarians aren't real people. Just walk on by.

Gotta love Progressive tolerance!

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

It's impossible to be even an average president if you actively support people who are rebelling against the government because they want to have the right to own other people. Do you disagree with this?

Their rebellion wasn't fought purely on the basis of owning people.

Neither was the Confederacy's.

[Antonio the Sixth]

An excellent president.

He supported the Confederacy.

Libertarians aren't real people. Just walk on by.

Gotta love Progressive tolerance!

You're closer to being real people than corporations, I'll give you that.

[King]

I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

They're right to sue. I wish more people would sue their high schools if they can't find a job.

[Paul Kemp]

All Bandit posts should be redirected to The Goldmine.

[opebo]

All Bandit posts should be redirected to The Goldmine.

Only for you clueless right-wingers.  For people who have any cognizance of the actual state of affairs in the world, he's merely plaintive and overly optimistic, but basically correct most of the time.

[Paul Kemp]

All Bandit posts should be redirected to The Goldmine.

Only for you clueless right-wingers.  For people who have any cognizance of the actual state of affairs in the world, he's merely plaintive and overly optimistic, but basically correct most of the time.

Your act is so stale these days that it's laughably predictable.

Also, thanks for posting that directing into this thread. Makes things easier.

[opebo]

Only for you clueless right-wingers. 

Check his PM score, Hoss.

Why would one lend credence to the PM score, Wyodon?

[opebo]

Because Kemp appears to have been around more than long enough to be legitimate, and seems fairly devoutly left-wing?

Really?  Well, I don't make it a project to observe him very closely, but I always assumed him to be a bit right-leaning.. perhaps its just an impression, but then again his PM score isn't a proper ->7/->7.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Because Kemp appears to have been around more than long enough to be legitimate, and seems fairly devoutly left-wing?

Really?  Well, I don't make it a project to observe him very closely, but I always assumed him to be a bit right-leaning.. perhaps its just an impression, but then again his PM score isn't a proper ->7/->7.

Does it count if you average the two to -7? -8/-6, for example? Do you weight E scores or S scores more heavily? Or are they both the same?

Stay tuned as we peek more into the mind of the legendary opebo, ladies and gentlemen.