The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts

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Give him a break.  At least that's way more coherent than what's put forward by your average politician. 

Arguably made more sense than this one:

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It's this crazy thing called nuance. 

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Oh, for Dave's sake.

Don't argue about the thread.  Use the thread or lose the thread.

Do not respond to this post.  If you are tempted to respond to this post, consider hunting down some absurd, ignorant, or bad posts and posting those instead.

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Oh, for Dave's sake.

Don't argue about the thread.  Use the thread or lose the thread.

Do not respond to this post.  If you are tempted to respond to this post, consider hunting down some absurd, ignorant, or bad posts and posting those instead.

Someone's been taking humor tips from Snowstalker, I see...

Careful, you're tempting Mikado  to pull the trigger.

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Mynheer Peeperkorn, you have yet to explain how social libertarianism is "true conservatism". I'm trying to find out the reasoning behind that. Merely using the fact that he was named "Mr. Conservative" in no way proves that he is the standard bearer for all conservatives of all time, yet that seems your only reasoning.

I'm not your teacher. Go to wikipedia.

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Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.

Um............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

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Yes, what an ABSURD statement.

Though if you are arguing semantics here, it would be inaccurate to call the Fugitive Slave Act a "compromise" in itself.  It was, after all, part of the much larger "Compromise of 1850".  Likely, it would've been very hard to pass it as a standalone act.

I think what sjoyce was getting at was that the neither the Fugitive Slave Act nor the Compromise of 1850 as a while are choice examples to use when talking up the advantages of beig willing to compromise.

The Compromise of 1850 would have been a good example to use in discussing compromise, since it involved things that were good as well as things that were not. The idea that a portion of a compromise thus becomes a position of compromise in itself is absurd.

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Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.

He should have known his post belongs to a genre only allowed to the Left.

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Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.

He should have known his post belongs to a genre only allowed to the Left.

Shut up, Shua.

Troll is gone. Stop saying foolish things. Be happy.

I'll stop saying foolish things when fools can understand anything else.

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He uses the specter of out of control deficits to sell a plan that would fund massive tax cuts for the rich through the deaths and impoverishment of millions of poor and elderly Americans.

^^^

Worthy of the guillotine along with the other greedy bastards who 'make' money at the expense of the people.

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If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that.

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?

That's entirely beside the point. What matters is that you seem to think that a longstanding forum institution (the Deluge bzw. the Institute) can be locked on no other grounds than "it was getting annoying to moderate." If you think there is too much material to moderate, step down and let someone else be moderator. It's that simple.

I didn't simply close it because it was getting annoying to moderate.  I closed it because it was getting annoying to moderate AND because when fights like these break out in previous Goldmines, that's the point that a new one starts.

Without that second half of the sentence, I wouldn't have locked the thread, and that's what you're not understanding.

Inks's use of the "Atlas tradition" argument is not only wrong, but also insincere and self-contradictory:

8/6/24.

Is this better, O Great and Powerful Inks?

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Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points

Really?

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points


Stating what you are infracted for is now worth ten points... If this isn't moderator tyranny, I don't know what is.

Yeah... stating what you're infracted for with a quote defeats the purpose of deleting and infracting the post.  If I let you repost it, it's essentially just letting you post it.  If you truly wanted to appeal the points, you could've PMed me.

Sorry, not buying it.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153941.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153010.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=150281.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148047.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148745.0

As expected, Inks completely ignores the fact that his argument has been torn to shreds.

It's 4th of July weekend - I'm working double shifts at work with the exception of today.  My apologies that I didn't make responding to your strawman post a priority.

I thought I had seen you post in between those two times.
[EDIT] That's right, you did.

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Are these better?
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3303637#msg3303637
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3085130#msg3085130

Plus dozens more that don't quote the infracted post but state exactly what it was about.

And this.
By a moderator, no less.

It is Atlas tradition to post in that thread the post you were infracted for.
Evidently Inks only follows "Atlas tradition" when it suits him.
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Those aren't instances of "Atlas tradition".  Those are instances of different moderator style.  On Forum Community, you're not allowed to post an infracted post.  That's something Mikado and I (I'm not sure about Alcon, since he's less active) agree on.

Atlas tradition is stuff like starting a new PAPOY thread each year or "Congrats Phil", not stuff that has to do with moderation style.
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this exchange should be nominated for some kind of award for complicated use of quotation formatting and links

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Bringinthetruth, me thinks you are an Obamamite, guess you didn't like the outcome of any of the debates or the fact that Romney is winning on the economic message, then what about the Benghazi scandal: you gotta know that Mitt is gonna bring it up in the Boca Raton face-off, and no Candy Crowley to help out, tsk..tsk...aw well you can't have everything go your way: it's gonna be fun to watch poor old Barack to try and squirm out of this latest situation, reminds me of the guy who keeps stepping on rakes and getting whacked in the kisser, I feel his pain...I really do, not!

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another in the ridiculous assumptions about a poster department:

That's not good. If it's that close of an election, the Republicans will steal it, especially since they control most of the likely closest states.

You support stealing elections? Nice...

Republicans: willing to do anything to win, no matter how undemocratic, unethical, or unconstitutional.

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Luckily the white majority in America is rapidly decreasing. Europe will soon be the only place in the world with large white majorities, and that's a socialist hell to white supremacist Republicans so they can't even flee there! Finally they'll feel the misery they've inflicted on others for generations.

Yes sorry for pretty much all the advancements in science, technology, and medicine. Damn those white people. We should've been putting bones through our noses and coloring our hair with cow urine the whole time

goodness, both those posts are atrocious.

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Now, let's hope that Paul Ryan's career will follow the same trajectory as that of John Edwards. 

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how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?

The opportunity for awkward self-defense is why this thread exists.  Arguing in the Good Post gallery - especially about Berlusconi - should be verboten.

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Hope Boehner slips on ice and falls down than cries like a little bi!ch.

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Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.

You didn't think that psychopath was being totally "awesome", bro?

He was. Nobody was ever in danger, as he had no weapon on him. He was just an idiot, and idiocy of a sufficient scale is, as you say, totally awesome by virtue of its comedic value. Bro. I'd hate to be the kid whose dad did that, though...

All he actually did was, as ChairmanSanchez noted in the other thread, was disturbing the peace and trespassing. Both of which, on the first offense in most places, get a slap on the wrist. Instead he'll likely be sent to prison for terrorism.

I'm glad you think scaring the hell out of people (probably little children included) to make a dumb political point is "awesome."

Why do you assume he was making a political point?

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This thread is a trainwreck.  There comes a point where people are criticizing oldiesfreak as absurd and are being absurd themselves in the way they are doing it.

Did you really just cite a visiting scholar from the American Enterprise Institute in an attempt to make your point?

argumentum ad hominem. Don't dismiss an argument just because the author has a particular association.
If you think the only reason someone would be a Democrat in the 1950s and a Republican a generation later is because of race, you've somehow missed the fundamental restructuring of the role of regionalism and ideology in political parties that is constantly discussed on this forum.

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The only Russian thing Snowstalker has read is Pussy Riot's liner notes.

The members of Pussy Riot have actually referenced Berdayev and Dosteyevski, so I wonder what their liner notes would look like.

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Why do so few people know who useful idiot is, or appreciate his cutting irony? 

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I am not going to postpone my life just because I don't have a job and I will actively enjoy life while I'm trying to rebound.

what's wrong with that?

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I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

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I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.

you don't have that sort of financial crisis without a recession
and since the stimulus was likewise a combination of tax cuts and spending . . .

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And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

Who, exactly, gives a damn? This a serious question. Excluding eight-year-old girls, who do you expect to know or care about the minute etymological differences between various extremely similar characters of an animated children's television show?

I don't think that word means what you think it means

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And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

Who, exactly, gives a damn? This a serious question. Excluding eight-year-old girls, who do you expect to know or care about the minute etymological differences between various extremely similar characters of an animated children's television show?

I don't think that word means what you think it means

There is one about bugs and one about words. Did I use the wrong one?

Etymology is about word origins.  If you had used the one about bugs (entomology) it would have made more sense since that at least could be relevant to whether an organism has wings.

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George Bush ran on a conservative foreign policy, but that changed come War on Terror.

What? That is completely accurate.