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[tpfkaw]

So according to PPP Obama is ahead by 1 nationally and 8 in PA?  One of these things is not like the others.

Edit:  Also PPP is way out of line with every other non-partisan pollster in its recent statewide polls; it's starting to look quite Rasmussenish.

[Napoleon]

So according to PPP Obama is ahead by 1 nationally and 8 in PA?  One of these things is not like the others.

Margin of error.

[old timey villain]

Well, Pennsylvania has been fools gold for Republicans for 20 years, so this doesn't look too outrageous. Pennsylvania might tighten a bit in 2012 due to Romney picking up some moderate suburbanites in the SE region, but Obama still wins comfortably.

[Eraserhead]

So according to PPP Obama is ahead by 1 nationally and 8 in PA?  One of these things is not like the others.

Sort of odd, but not exactly impossible.

[Tender Branson]

About what Quinnipiac found.

[marvelrobbins]

PPP Is great In state polls.National polls less so.For a group that Is bashed at being democratic
basis you couldn't tell from national numbers.

Obama Is going to win states that went for eather Gore or Kerry.The battleground will be In
states like Nevada,Colorado,Ohio,Virginia,NC,and florida with possibiltys In Arizona,Missouri,and
Indiana.

[The Mikado]

So according to PPP Obama is ahead by 1 nationally and 8 in PA?  One of these things is not like the others.

I find the idea of PA being several points more Dem than the nation as a whole to be well in line with what we've seen from PA the last few decades.  +7 might be stretching it a bit, but saying that PA is 3 or 4 points more D than the nation as a whole seems pretty reasonable.

[Torie]

So according to PPP Obama is ahead by 1 nationally and 8 in PA?  One of these things is not like the others.

I find the idea of PA being several points more Dem than the nation as a whole to be well in line with what we've seen from PA the last few decades.  +7 might be stretching it a bit, but saying that PA is 3 or 4 points more D than the nation as a whole seems pretty reasonable.

I agree. To change that, Mittens needs to get back a bunch of those moderate Pubs who have drifted away seemingly semi-permanently in Montco, Delaware and Chester Counties, and hold the big Toomey snap back in Lancaster County. I suspect the Pub percentages are rather maxed out   elsewhere. It will be interesting to see how a class based campaign based on economics and redistributive economics, where most everything else is at the margins, will change the map structure that has held pretty well since 1992 really.  In other words, where will the trends be, and will they break the post 1992 mold. You notice these days that Mittens does not want to talk about social issues - at all.

[DrScholl]

National polls and state level polls don't always match up, mainly because national polls are less stable and are more prone to bigger swings.

[pbrower2a]

Obama +8 in Pennsylvania as a reflection of an even shift of an even shift of votes nationwide means a 50-47 split of the popular vote nationwide.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4220120520108