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« on: May 23, 2012, 06:57:06 AM »

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154799/Americans-Including-Catholics-Say-Birth-Control-Morally.aspx

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What is up with the porn hate?
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 07:34:32 AM »

It's hard to take Americans very seriously when more say that "sex between an unmarried man and woman" is morally wrong than feel that way about the death penalty.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 08:57:08 AM »

I am in a very elite group. I am of the 9% of Pubs who does not think suicide per se is morally wrong (yes, it can be sometimes, but not always). Well I am used to this sort of thing. I have my own view of the world, and sometimes rather few share it. And so it goes.  Interesting poll!
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 10:39:17 AM »


I imagine it is probably a combination of disgust and/or strong objection to such objectification and exploitation of people. Some folks might also think it's immoral even though they look at it.

That being said, the items on the list I consider morally wrong are: buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur, the death penalty, medical testing on animals, and married men and women having an affair. I feel somewhat more strongly about the former three of the four than the last.

Interesting numbers though. Hmm...
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 10:48:18 AM »

We had a thread on this last year when the 2011 poll came out.  The poll asked whether each of the things is GENERALLY morally acceptable, as opposed to always or never.  As I said before, I consider all of the things generally acceptable except the death penalty, buying and wearing animal fur, medical testing on animals, and human cloning.  Even regarding these four exceptions, I wouldn't say that any are always wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 10:52:41 AM »

I'm sure that probably at least half of the people who answered "immoral" for pornography are at least semi-regular viewers of it.

And that's not necessarily hypocritical either unless they would also claim to be morally flawless.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 10:57:33 AM »

I'm sure that probably at least half of the people who answered "immoral" for pornography are at least semi-regular viewers of it.

And that's not necessarily hypocritical either unless they would also claim to be morally flawless.

The situation you describe for pornography is even more applicable to the results for an unmarried (straight) couple having sex.  38 percent say it's morally wrong, yet probably 95 percent of more of all couples who get married have already started having sex by that point. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 02:59:52 AM »

Democrats and Indies are more in agreement than Republicans and Indies on most of these issues.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 03:04:25 AM »

They should have asked hypocrisy...
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 03:06:21 AM »


Most people don't know what the word means.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 03:22:32 AM »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 03:55:41 AM »
« Edited: May 26, 2012, 03:59:25 AM by Nathan »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?

I'm honestly more concerned with the fact that we think that that's morally acceptable than with the fact that we think cloning them isn't.

Like last year, I probably view more of these as morally wrong than most people on here, which I can itemize if this picks up steam and turns into a slugfest (or in an attempt to make it pick up steam and turn into a slugfest).
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 04:03:30 AM »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?
Considering it hubris to mess around with the nature of a living thing. There may be some wisdom in that - just think of all the trouble we've had with invasive species, or some of the breeding we've done that leads to dogs with ailments you wouldn't see otherwise.
Also, anything unfamiliar is likely to lead to less acceptance.  People have spent a great deal of time already on justifications for killing animals for food or clothing, and so it seems perfectly natural and correct. So you have about ten times as many people who believe medical testing on animals is wrong as believe eating animals is wrong, even though a rational justification is arguably much stronger for the former practice.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2012, 04:25:53 AM »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?
Considering it hubris to mess around with the nature of a living thing. There may be some wisdom in that - just think of all the trouble we've had with invasive species, or some of the breeding we've done that leads to dogs with ailments you wouldn't see otherwise.
Also, anything unfamiliar is likely to lead to less acceptance.  People have spent a great deal of time already on justifications for killing animals for food or clothing, and so it seems perfectly natural and correct. So you have about ten times as many people who believe medical testing on animals is wrong as believe eating animals is wrong, even though a rational justification is arguably much stronger for the former practice.
That doesn't seem the consistent mentality though. Look how quickly and easily the internet, and other radically deviant technologies, have been adopted.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2012, 04:41:43 AM »

Suicide - 14/80
Doctor-assisted suicide - 45/48

Wut?
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2012, 05:28:11 AM »

Suicide - 14/80
Doctor-assisted suicide - 45/48

Wut?

I think people are assuming a terminal illness in the second one and not the first.

I imagine the split is similar when comparing support for doctor-assisted suicide for the terminally ill vs voluntary euthanasia for the healthy.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2012, 11:20:22 AM »

I'm more surprised that Gay/Lesbian relationships are on the same level as out of wedlock births. 

But I have to admit the 60-37 disapproval of Pornography is BS. I mean c'mon, who hasn't seen porn?
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2012, 01:54:39 PM »

I feel very immoral for supporting literally everything except married men and women having an affair. Though it all depends on the circumstances.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2012, 06:31:59 PM »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?
Considering it hubris to mess around with the nature of a living thing. There may be some wisdom in that - just think of all the trouble we've had with invasive species, or some of the breeding we've done that leads to dogs with ailments you wouldn't see otherwise.
Also, anything unfamiliar is likely to lead to less acceptance.  People have spent a great deal of time already on justifications for killing animals for food or clothing, and so it seems perfectly natural and correct. So you have about ten times as many people who believe medical testing on animals is wrong as believe eating animals is wrong, even though a rational justification is arguably much stronger for the former practice.
That doesn't seem the consistent mentality though. Look how quickly and easily the internet, and other radically deviant technologies, have been adopted.
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most people just consider it an extension of mass media
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2012, 07:30:12 PM »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?
Considering it hubris to mess around with the nature of a living thing. There may be some wisdom in that - just think of all the trouble we've had with invasive species, or some of the breeding we've done that leads to dogs with ailments you wouldn't see otherwise.
Also, anything unfamiliar is likely to lead to less acceptance.  People have spent a great deal of time already on justifications for killing animals for food or clothing, and so it seems perfectly natural and correct. So you have about ten times as many people who believe medical testing on animals is wrong as believe eating animals is wrong, even though a rational justification is arguably much stronger for the former practice.
That doesn't seem the consistent mentality though. Look how quickly and easily the internet, and other radically deviant technologies, have been adopted.
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most people just consider it an extension of mass media

The internet is a large media, but it is hardly a mass media since it allows for its consumers to individualize their intake.  Also, the perceived anonymity of the internet allows people to engage in all sort of activities, including immoral ones, that they never would engage in without that cloak of anonymity.
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2012, 11:28:51 PM »

Why the hell do people think cloning animals is immoral? The other things I can understand why someone might consider them immoral(even if I disagree with them), but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that says animal cloning is immoral. , we can cram chickens in uncomfortable crates and eat them, but we can't clone them?
So you have about ten times as many people who believe medical testing on animals is wrong as believe eating animals is wrong, even though a rational justification is arguably much stronger for the former practice.

A great many moral beliefs don't make logical sense.  Why, for example, is it perfectly legal and even generally considered honorable to euthanize a dying pet, yet a crime and highly controversial (as shown in this poll) to do the same for human beings, even when the humans specifically request that someone help them die--something that animals, for obvious reasons, can never do? 

It should be noted that many, if not most, people don't base their moral beliefs on logic because they largely rely on religion in forming them.  Religion is basically the opposite of logic, one just accepts things on faith without asking if they make sense or not.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2012, 11:32:57 AM »

It's hard to take Americans very seriously when more say that "sex between an unmarried man and woman" is morally wrong than feel that way about the death penalty.
4%...you don't take Americans very seriously because of a 4% difference?



The only thing in the list I think is morally wrong is adultery.
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2012, 01:14:40 PM »

I'm more surprised that Gay/Lesbian relationships are on the same level as out of wedlock births. 

But I have to admit the 60-37 disapproval of Pornography is BS. I mean c'mon, who hasn't seen porn?

Once again someone engaging in an activity doesn't mean they can't think it's immoral unless said person claims to be morally perfect (and of course many peoples' opinions on lots of these things are a bit too complex to be simply neatly put in one of two categories.)
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2012, 01:21:11 PM »

Porn number makes sense.  The super religious are of course against it, but so are older non-religious women. That's about 60 percent of the populous.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2012, 03:11:10 PM »

Porn being morally wrong? Jesus Christ, what are we? Eunuchs?
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