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Miles
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« on: May 29, 2012, 12:25:22 PM »

Full Story.

Obama- 53%
Romney- 39%

Obama has a similar 53/41 approval rating while Romney has a 35/57 favorable rating.

Some other tidbits:

"- Romney just doesn't have much of a home field advantage in the state. Only 24% of voters consider him to be a Michigander to 65% who do not...

Obama's crushing Romney on what will doubtless be one of the biggest issues in the campaign in Michigan- 55% think that he's been better for the automotive industry in the state to only 31% who say Romney wins out on that front....

There's been some talk about Rick Snyder as a potential running mate but he wouldn't help the ticket any- with him as the VP pick Obama's lead actually expands slightly to 53-38. That's because Snyder continues to be an unpopular Governor with only 37% of voters approving of him to 52% who disapprove. That's a regression for Snyder compared to February when he was at 40/47, largely because he's seen a drop with independents."

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 12:27:23 PM »

I officially declare Obama the winner of the 2012 presidential election.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 12:32:53 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 12:54:45 PM »

Where's umeng...bawlexus?
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Brittain33
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 01:29:35 PM »

Same respondents claimed they voted for Obama over McCain by 16%. That's roughly the result from 2008.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 01:49:39 PM »

Presidential politics of 2012 look much like those of 2008. Attention may be directed elsewhere.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 02:02:01 PM »

I think the unpopular governor effect theory might actually have some legs to stand on...
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 03:16:40 PM »

I predict an Obama 53-46 win.  It's not gonna be the 2008 blowout
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 04:15:47 PM »

I predict an Obama 53-46 win.  It's not gonna be the 2008 blowout

I agree. It won't be another 17-point Obama win; probably something like 55-44 Obama.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 04:48:27 PM »

I concur with the above posters, Obama will probably beat Romney by around the same margin Bush beat Dukakis in MI.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 04:51:36 PM »

Presidential politics of 2012 look much like those of 2008. Attention may be directed elsewhere.

Not according to President Obama. Click here: "2008 in some ways was lightning in a bottle," Obama said. "That's not going to be replicated.  And we shouldn’t expect it to."

But thanks for permission to direct attention elsewhere.

Soon after the 2008 election I frequently predicted that the state results would largely go closer to 50-50 in the states that President Obama either won by huge margins or lost by huge margins. It was hard to see why President Obama could gain votes in California or New York because he had to be in a max-out position in such states. Likewise I expected the President to convince some or those who voted against him that he was not going to take away their guns and their Bibles.

The extreme polarization of results between the States looked like the anomaly -- one likely to be reversed. I figured that the Republicans would have to come up with RINO types to win back some House and Senate seats... and they did well with Tea Party types this time.

So, you ask, what is the difference between a polarized election and one not so polarized? President Obama won the 2008 election by 7.26%; in 1944 FDR won the election by roughly 7.49%  To be sure the historical circumstances were vastly different; America had a clear and shared purpose in 1944 that it lacked in 2008 (and still does), and the incumbent President was already dying.  FDR lost one state by 21% (Kansas) and lost only three others by 10% or more. He won all eleven former Confederate states by more than 20% (but those states did not hold free, fair, or competitive elections in those days). The one non-Southern state that he won by more than 20% was -- and you will find this hard to believe -- Utah.   He won six other states by 10% or more.

In 1944, 295 electoral votes were decided in free and fair elections by 8% or lesser margins. In 2008 only 116 electoral votes were so decided. So far as I can tell all Presidential elections were fair and honest in all states in 2008.
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