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« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2012, 01:10:11 PM »
« edited: June 08, 2012, 01:12:12 PM by red's wet dream »

Nay.
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« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2012, 01:17:01 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2012, 01:20:52 PM by red's wet dream »

I would like to introduce an amendment of my own.

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« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2012, 01:19:25 PM »

Wait, what about my already passed Amendment?  Would this Amendment overturn mine?

Yes it would.

I think from now on we should require that all amendment sponsors update their texts as the bill is modified to reflect such changes, on penalty of having them tossed if they fail to do so.
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« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2012, 01:51:59 PM »

I object to both Amendments.
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« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2012, 03:18:43 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2012, 03:22:08 PM by Senator Scott »

Nay.

Also, this is a very poorly worded amendment.  The definition of the word "attack" can be stretched far beyond what is implied.
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« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2012, 05:22:16 PM »

I would like to introduce an amendment of my own.

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You mean IRL? Or here?
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« Reply #106 on: June 10, 2012, 04:44:47 PM »

Gentlement we are voting on this, just for clarification. I was on my dad's laptop on Friday and I was constantly getting session timed out and the modification to the topic line didn't go through. He then started bugging me about wanting to go to sleep and I didn't want it put it my room because that is way of getting rid of stuff permenently and I don't have room for it, so to make a long story short, it got forgotten about. Tongue

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« Reply #107 on: June 10, 2012, 04:45:49 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2012, 04:48:59 PM »

I would like to introduce an amendment of my own.

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You mean IRL? Or here?

I am considering tossing Wormyguy's amendment on grounds that it is functionally impractical and thus frivolous. I will give him a chance to convince me otherwise or alter the text. There is also an objection period to that and I don't have a direct link to the OSPR saved on a handy notepad like I do on the T3302.
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« Reply #109 on: June 10, 2012, 06:03:54 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #110 on: June 10, 2012, 07:09:40 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #111 on: June 10, 2012, 08:30:53 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2012, 08:37:36 PM »

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« Reply #113 on: June 11, 2012, 01:05:39 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #114 on: June 11, 2012, 01:48:35 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #115 on: June 11, 2012, 02:20:00 PM »

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« Reply #116 on: June 11, 2012, 02:53:58 PM »

Nay.

I am considering tossing Wormyguy's amendment on grounds that it is functionally impractical and thus frivolous. I will give him a chance to convince me otherwise or alter the text. There is also an objection period to that and I don't have a direct link to the OSPR saved on a handy notepad like I do on the T3302.

My amendment is not frivolous and addresses a genuine concern - that Senators unwilling to risk their own lives will vote to force others to risk theirs.  If there are currently no procedures for joining the Atlasian military or legislation defining what that implies, that's a failure of this body that needs to be corrected, not a flaw in the amendment.
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« Reply #117 on: June 11, 2012, 03:23:33 PM »

Nay.

I am considering tossing Wormyguy's amendment on grounds that it is functionally impractical and thus frivolous. I will give him a chance to convince me otherwise or alter the text. There is also an objection period to that and I don't have a direct link to the OSPR saved on a handy notepad like I do on the T3302.

My amendment is not frivolous and addresses a genuine concern - that Senators unwilling to risk their own lives will vote to force others to risk theirs.  If there are currently no procedures for joining the Atlasian military or legislation defining what that implies, that's a failure of this body that needs to be corrected, not a flaw in the amendment.

The Senator has an excellent idea. Perhaps, as part of registration (a new, stickied thread would be nice for this), one would give a basic biography (a paragraph or two) about themselves? Major accomplishments, education, job history, current role (if applicable), etc. These would be kept updated, ideally.
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« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2012, 11:43:30 AM »

And how would you police it to ensure accuracy?
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« Reply #119 on: June 12, 2012, 12:28:14 PM »

And how would you police it to ensure accuracy?

Well, it'd be part of registration, so I'd assume the Registrar General would do so?
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« Reply #120 on: June 13, 2012, 04:38:13 PM »

And how would you police it to ensure accuracy?

Well, it'd be part of registration, so I'd assume the Registrar General would do so?

How not who? Is homely going to send of team of Frank Cannons and Jim Rockfords to investigate the RL people who register to find out if the information is truthfull?

If they make it all up upon registration what's the point? Everyone will either lie or leave the game who is not a veteran.

That is why it is impractical. There is no way to make this work.
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« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2012, 07:16:47 PM »

Vote on the Seatown Amendment:

Aye (0):
Nay (9): AndrewPA, Ben, ILV, NC Yankee, sbane, Scott, Seatown, TJ in Cleve, and Wormyguy
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Clarence

Attempted to Vote Twice (2): Scott and Wormyguy

The amendment has failed.
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« Reply #122 on: June 19, 2012, 01:14:04 AM »

Can we table this?
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« Reply #123 on: June 20, 2012, 04:56:43 PM »

Puts on Al Gore hat, "Has the petition been signed by [another] Senator?"


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« Reply #124 on: June 20, 2012, 05:28:28 PM »

I'll second.
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