talking points that piss you off

[courts]

particularly annoying talking points:

-"family values." the only people that say this are either ones too cowardly to come out and say what we all know they really mean or people that are so clueless that they totally miss what it's actually code for and instead think it sounds nice and fuzzy.

-"iran wants to wipe israel off the map." this has been debunked so many times, not to mention it makes no logical sense. why would iran want to fire a nuke at a country with hundreds of them that is unconditionally supported by the us. use your head.

-"you're a conspiracy theorist." this is never in reference to an actual conspiracy, just a response by idiots whenever you mention things like the fast and furious scandal. anything remotely critical of the government now is a conspiracy theory according to obamabots. it's like what happened to the word 'racist.'

-"lesser of 2 evils"

-"socialized medicine." this is not an argument.

-"the poor/48% pay no taxes." right because sales tax, payroll tax, cigarette taxes, gasoline tax, property tax, etc. don't count. this is so idiotic. to make it worse it's normally paired with something similarly inane and disingenuous like "everyone needs some skin in the game" to justify supporting tax hikes for poor people.

-"i support a strong defense."  because anyone that has a problem with the military budget constantly expanding regardless of our financial situation or need obviously wants a weak defense.

-"clinton reduced the debt." no president has reduced the debt in my lifetime, this isn't hard to google either. what happened was congress stole money from social security (as usual) and that resulted in the deficit going down a bit for awhile. and then they kept borrowing from it but still managed to run massive deficits under bush.

-speaking of which: "obama ended the iraq war." no, by the time he got in most of the people fighting in iraq were armed contractors. that's still the case, we still have a huge heavily armed military base there which isn't going away. the fact that the media reported the iraq war was ending twice should have tipped you off that something was not quite right.

-"reagan reduced spending/never gave amnesty/[insert ridiculous claim]."  

- "reagan conservative." he's totally irrelevant to most people now. a huge chunk of the electorate either wasn't born when he was in office or (in my case) were far too young to remember any of his presidency other than what we learned second-hand. the constant idolizing and insistence that you're a "reagan conservative!" in 2012 is embarrassing as far as I'm concerned. stop talking about how you want to to be an imitation of someone who was dead before I finished high school, and start proposing solutions to problems now. it's not like you see democrats talking about how they're "fdr progressives."

-"saved or created [insert] million jobs." if you want to argue for keynesian economics ok whatever, but please don't insult my intelligence.

-"white privilege." this is such an infuriating oversimplification. there's so much evidence pointing towards poor scotts irish actually having worse education and career prospects than minorities in this country for example. white people are not a monolithic group, there are definitely significant outcome differences for people based on other variables like class or ethnicity still.

[k-onmmunist]

I agree with all of what you said, actually.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I agree with all of what you said, actually.

Yes. Surprisingly...

[You kip if you want to...]

"The mess left behind by the last government!"
Shut up, David Cameron!

"We had no other option when we entered coalition."
There were many, Clegg!

[Antonio the Sixth]

There are so many that I don't know where to start.

[Leftbehind]

Indeed. Everything that's been suggested so far, at the least.

Without Blair Labour wouldn't have won an election/Blair won 1997 (with the implication that anyone else wouldn't have).

[freefair]

The "If you are a member of an ethnic minority, It isn't a prejudice, it's 'culture' , but if you are anyone else, it is unacceptable" attitude. It is is abominable and is the clearest set of double standards in modern political discourse.

[All Along The Watchtower]

"Obama's socialist agenda."

1. The people saying this have no idea what "socialist" means, only that it is something bad.

2. Obama barely qualifies as an American liberal, let alone a "socialist."

[k-onmmunist]

"Left wing media bias"

Uh, yeah, a quick glance of the newspaper endorsements for the last election disproves that pretty swiftly.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

There are so many that I don't know where to start.

[Ebowed]

'sanctity of' anything.

[Simfan34]

"Facts have a liberal bias"

[TJ in Oregon]

"All conservatives are stupid"

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

"The government is trying to destroy the middle class"
"Corporations and the 1% are destroying the rest of the country"
"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"
"Homophobia is the same thing as racism"

[k-onmmunist]

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?

The talking point pisses me off when used in situations that don't apply, or involve someone else (abortion).

[Donerail]

"War on Christmas"

[Leftbehind]

'Militant atheism'.

[k-onmmunist]

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?

The talking point pisses me off when used in situations that don't apply, or involve someone else (abortion).

Someone else being a bunch of cells... oh boy...

'Militant atheism'.

And it's brother talking point, "militant secularism" as Baroness Warsi put it...

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?

The talking point pisses me off when used in situations that don't apply, or involve someone else (abortion).

Someone else being a bunch of cells... oh boy...

'Militant atheism'.

And it's brother talking point, "militant secularism" as Baroness Warsi put it...

We are all a bunch of cells.

[Donerail]

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?

The talking point pisses me off when used in situations that don't apply, or involve someone else (abortion).

Someone else being a bunch of cells... oh boy...

'Militant atheism'.

And it's brother talking point, "militant secularism" as Baroness Warsi put it...

We are all a bunch of cells.

And you just murdered hundreds, if not thousands, of cells; your own white blood cells are carrying out massacres of innocent bacteria. Where's your point?

[bore]

Any politician who compares the economy to one household deserves to be stretched on the rack.

[You kip if you want to...]

"The Royal Family pays for itself."

[Hash]

Most of what is on conservative.ca would be a good place to start. In particular:
"family values"
"moral values"
"religious [whatever]"
"job creation"/"create jobs"
"entrepreneurship"
"small businesses"
"tax grabs!"/"low taxes!"
"strong defense"

And, of course, as a public servant: New Public Management.

[Antonio the Sixth]

"Homophobia is the same thing as racism"

Wait wait what ?

How is homophobia different than racism exactly ?