Opinion of Socialism

[politicus]

Freedom ideology or Horrible ideology or just too diverse to categorize?

Does it offer any real solutions to the problems we face today?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Horrible ideoology.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Option 3, of course. There's a massive difference between socialism in Sweden and socialism in Cuba.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Option 3, of course.

[Redalgo]

Option 3, of course.

Though, overall, I have a higher opinion of socialism than either capitalism or neo-mercantilism.

All reasonable political-economic ideologies have the latent potential to deliver "real solutions" to the problems we face today. Choosing one over others is just a matter of our moral preferences.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Option 3, of course.

Though, overall, I have a higher opinion of socialism than either capitalism or neo-mercantilism.

All reasonable political-economic ideologies have the latent potential to deliver "real solutions" to the problems we face today. Choosing one over others is just a matter of our moral preferences.

Emphasis on 'latent'. As practiced some are certainly more practicable and helpful than others.

[Dereich]

Silly, misguided ideology. Believers are to be pitied and guided towards the light of liberalism.

[The Mikado]

Option 3, definitely.  There is a pretty huge difference depending on what time period and what movement you're talking about.  I'd have been a Saint-Simonian had I been alive in the 1820s, for example.  At least, I like to think I would...I think living in Bourbon France would've radicalized me to that extent.  In the UK of that period someone like me would likely become a Utilitarian Philosophic Radical...it's late.  Why am I thinking about whether 1820s me would be starry-eyed over the comte de Saint Simon or Jeremy Bentham?

[freefair]

Nordic Model- Very FI
Every single other form- HI

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Freedom ideology (The Nordic version, that is).

[Supersonic]

Horrible ideoology.

[batmacumba]

Nordic Model- Very FI
Every single other form- HI

Jaurès too?
And what about this guy?

[freefair]

And what about this guy?

Good ideas, but he was a Tyrant.

[k-onmmunist]

Voted FI assuming we're talking about the principles behind it - public ownership, greater social equality, redistribution of wealth etc.

[batmacumba]

And what about this guy?

Good ideas, but he was a Tyrant.

In the original meaning of the word, I concede. And It's probable He would transition to the common meaning, as other similar leaders on that conditions awfuly did, many of them to be worse than the plague. But as He fell before It, I regard him as a mega FF.
I still not know if You think Jaurès had a HI, too.

[TNF]

Social democracy - Freedom ideology
Democratic socialism - Mixed
Revolutionary socialism/Marxism/Marxism-Leninism/Communism - Horrible ideology

I self identify as a social democrat, so I might be a tad biased.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Which socialism?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Like capitalism, it is a terrible idea when brought to all its logical conclusions, and a very good one when conceived with some pragmatism.

[Хahar 🤔]

Like capitalism, it is a terrible idea when brought to all its logical conclusions, and a very good one when conceived with some pragmatism.

You still don't understand what socialism is.

[greenforest32]

The world needs more of it

[The Simpsons Cinematic Universe]

Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production by society. It is not a welfare state, it is not state ownership of a few industries, and it is not state capitalism.

Marxism is logical from analysis of material conditions.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Like capitalism, it is a terrible idea when brought to all its logical conclusions, and a very good one when conceived with some pragmatism.

You still don't understand what socialism is.

Since I've not changed my mind from the last time we discussed about it, it means that you didn't manage to convince me.

[Franzl]

Like capitalism, it is a terrible idea when brought to all its logical conclusions, and a very good one when conceived with some pragmatism.

You still don't understand what socialism is.

Since I've not changed my mind from the last time we discussed about it, it means that you didn't manage to convince me.

Then the only explanation is that you're too dumb. After all, this is the great Xahar here.

[Gustaf]

Like capitalism, it is a terrible idea when brought to all its logical conclusions, and a very good one when conceived with some pragmatism.

You still don't understand what socialism is.

Here I was going to say that he doesn't understand what capitalism is. Capitalism doesn't really have "logical conclusions."

[Mechaman]

Horrible, like all political "Ideologies".

Learning to let go of ideology is perhaps the greatest lesson I've learned, it allows me to think freely (kind of like atheism really).