The Top 10 Worst U.S. Presidents

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That's just compiled from Wikipedia rankings.

Real list is:

10. Clinton
9. Eisenhower
8. Nixon
7. LBJ
6. Wilson
5. Truman
4. Reagan
3. FDR
2. Lincoln
1. Dubya

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That's just compiled from Wikipedia rankings.

Real list is:

10. Clinton
9. Eisenhower
8. Nixon
7. LBJ
6. Wilson
5. Truman
4. Reagan
3. FDR
2. Lincoln
1. Dubya

So, apart from honest Abe, you prefer the 19th century presidents.
Just because there wasnt any big government in the 19th century?
Many of them were pretty incompetent and several responsible for genocide.

Are you implying that I support "Manifest Destiny"?

That's just compiled from Wikipedia rankings.

Real list is:

10. Clinton
9. Eisenhower
8. Nixon
7. LBJ
6. Wilson
5. Truman
4. Reagan
3. FDR
2. Lincoln
1. Dubya

This list (in its entirety) is why I could never be a full on Libertarian. Foreign policy is ridiculous and for the most part their social policy is as well.

So your issue is with the peace and liberty part, not the complex economic theory part?

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That's just compiled from Wikipedia rankings.

Real list is:

10. Clinton
9. Eisenhower
8. Nixon
7. LBJ
6. Wilson
5. Truman
4. Reagan
3. FDR
2. Lincoln
1. Dubya

There's a lot of problems with that list.  All those arithmetic values are arbitrary.  Is the gold standard really more important than whether someone supported Dred Scott?  Lincoln loses points for being a supposed "white supremacist" in spite of all his policies to the contrary, meanwhile Jackson and Van Buren don't lose any for supporting the gag rule against anti-slavery speech in Congress. And Reagan doesn't get any credit for lowering taxes?

Lincoln wanted to deport all black people to Liberia, and attempted to have them colonize Île à Vache, British Honduras, Chiriquí Province, and various other places to get them out of the US. Seems pretty racist to me.

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4. William Harrison

39. William Harrison

You two. Name one thing, one simple thing WHH failed at during his term in office. Name one terrible thing he did (this excluding things he did not do) that makes him deserve that ranking (asides from long-windedness).

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Lincoln wanted to deport all black people to Liberia, and attempted to have them colonize Île à Vache, British Honduras, Chiriquí Province, and various other places to get them out of the US. Seems pretty racist to me.

Or just pragmatic. Lincoln knew his countrymen's racial attitudes well enough to realise that even freed blacks wouldn't be more than second class citizens in the forseeable future. so the idea that it might be better for them to be first class ones in a state of their own was not absurd, though the numbers involved merant that it could only work for  aminority of the freedmen.

He also suspended habeas corpus, imprisoned his political opponents, shut down newspapers, started a draft, murdered draft protestors, and tried to assassinate his counterpart.