If the next jobs report is as bad as the last one..........

[Lincoln Republican]

how tough is it going to be for Obama to get re-elected?

[Joe Biden 2020]

It will be a little harder than it is now, but still not impossible.  The jobs reports to really watch will be July, August, September, and October with September being the most important.  With the Election being November 6, the October report should come out on Friday, November 2.  Early Voting will be either underway or wrapping up in most states, so the most significant report will be September as it will come out just a couple weeks before Mail-in and absentee ballots are cast.  Plus, September will be the first month after the conventions (realizing that the DNC is the first week of September, but still 3 weeks of September after the DNC.)

[5280]

There will be an uptick in seasonal summer jobs, and they will be stagnate from June until August then level off.  I don't expect a large increase of the job reports from May to November 2012.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Well, as summer hiring gets underway, I think Romney should start talking a bit more about youth unemployment. It's a huge problem everywhere. Kids can't get jobs over the summer to put towards their education, and the students leaving high school/undergrad aren't finding jobs. Might be a good way to chip into Obama's coalition of young people.

[President von Cat]

Obama's approval rating on Gallup just hit 50%..

[Torie]

how tough is it going to be for Obama to get re-elected?

Maybe it depends on what the report says that comes out this coming October. What do you think?

Was this little question of yours really worth a thread?  If I put up a thread every time I had a brain fart, Atlasia's software would crash.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

how tough is it going to be for Obama to get re-elected?

Maybe it depends on what the report says that comes out this coming October. What do you think?

Was this little question of yours really worth a thread?  If I put up a thread every time I had a brain fart, Atlasia's software would crash.

It's just like Romney's campaign tactic, clobber over the head until people relent.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

how tough is it going to be for Obama to get re-elected?

Maybe it depends on what the report says that comes out this coming October. What do you think?

Was this little question of yours really worth a thread?  If I put up a thread every time I had a brain fart, Atlasia's software would crash.

It's just like Romney's campaign tactic, clobber over the head until people relent.

If it works...

[technical support]

sad republicans praying that america fails.

[5280]

sad republicans praying that america fails.

More like Obama has failed America, he had his chance.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

[5280]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

Stop blaming Bush, it's almost the end of Obama's 1st term and you're not over that?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

Stop blaming Bush, it's almost the end of Obama's 1st term and you're not over that?

Yeah, I should just forget how much terrible the last 12 years of Republican Presidents were for job growth. And that from 1929-2008, every Democratic President had a higher average annual percentage increase in jobs than every Republican President. Mitt Romney will obviously magically create 500,000 new jobs a month.

[President von Cat]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

Stop blaming Bush, it's almost the end of Obama's 1st term and you're not over that?

Polls have shown that well over 50% of Americans still do not blame Obama for the economy.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

Stop blaming Bush, it's almost the end of Obama's 1st term and you're not over that?

That's comparing, not blaming.    Still sensitive, eh?

[timothyinMD]

Republicans praying America fails? 

Democrats SALIVATED every time a soldier was killed in Iraq in 2004-2007 hoping it would hurt George Bush. It was disgusting

[President von Cat]

Republicans praying America fails?  

Democrats SALIVATED every time a soldier was killed in Iraq in 2004-2007 hoping it would hurt George Bush. It was disgusting

That is simply untrue. Democrats may have opposed the surge and the war, but they never intentionally did anything as ridiculous as the debt ceiling fiasco, which put the country's economy and good credit on the line. Republican political leaders have come out saying that their top goal is to make Obama  one term president. Democrats never went that far.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Republicans praying America fails? 

Democrats SALIVATED every time a soldier was killed in Iraq in 2004-2007 hoping it would hurt George Bush. It was disgusting

No... making that suggestion is disgusting.

[WhyteRain]

Responding to three comments:

1.  Everyone with an IQ above 94 recalls that Bush had a fabulous economy when he had a Republican Congress.  Come to think of it, so did Clinton.  Hmmm....

2.  Four undeniable facts about last years debt ceiling crisis:

(1)  The Democrats had no long-term plan.
(2)  The Democrats refused to negotiate a short-term plan.
(3)  The Republicans had a long-term plan (called "Cut, Cap, and Balance").
(4)  The Republicans were willing to negotiate a short-term plan.

So what is the level of insanity we must assign to people who blame Republicans for the debt ceiling crisis?

3.  The MSM certainly promoted "the war is lost" meme in the run-up to the 2006 elections.  I recall that CNN's Bill Schneider said around Labor Day, 2006, "If the story of the election is the economy, the Republicans win; if the story is the war, the Democrats win."  From that day forward, CNN ran virtually no stories on the fabulous economy.  But everyday the featured story was "Four (or two or five) U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq today" -- and if no U.S. soldiers died that day, they'd run "anniversary" stories of deaths:  "Today is the second anniversary of the deaths of four (or two or five) soldiers in Iraq."

There were "Mission Accomplished" banners in newsrooms across America the day after the election.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

How was the 2006 economy 'fabulous'?

* lowest rate of housing values since 1999
* record consumer debt
* wages were a record low share of national income
* 16% slower job growth than 2004
* expansion of the trade deficit
* economic growth throughout 2006 was dropping...

If anything, it was sluggish and weakening...

[President von Cat]

Responding to three comments:

1.  Everyone with an IQ above 94 recalls that Bush had a fabulous economy when he had a Republican Congress.  Come to think of it, so did Clinton.  Hmmm....

2.  Four undeniable facts about last years debt ceiling crisis:

(1)  The Democrats had no long-term plan.
(2)  The Democrats refused to negotiate a short-term plan.
(3)  The Republicans had a long-term plan (called "Cut, Cap, and Balance").
(4)  The Republicans were willing to negotiate a short-term plan.

So what is the level of insanity we must assign to people who blame Republicans for the debt ceiling crisis?

3.  The MSM certainly promoted "the war is lost" meme in the run-up to the 2006 elections.  I recall that CNN's Bill Schneider said around Labor Day, 2006, "If the story of the election is the economy, the Republicans win; if the story is the war, the Democrats win."  From that day forward, CNN ran virtually no stories on the fabulous economy.  But everyday the featured story was "Four (or two or five) U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq today" -- and if no U.S. soldiers died that day, they'd run "anniversary" stories of deaths:  "Today is the second anniversary of the deaths of four (or two or five) soldiers in Iraq."

There were "Mission Accomplished" banners in newsrooms across America the day after the election.

We've had a Republican House since early 2011, and the economy isn't exactly jizzing rainbows. The Republican House in fact nearly pushed the economy into recession with their debt ceiling fiasco.

Also, all four of your "facts" are wrong.

1. The Democratic long term plan was to raise the debt ceiling to prevent fiscal calamity until it needed to be raised again, which is exactly what the Republican long term plan would have been had they controlled the White House. For specific examples, please see the Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II administrations.

2. The Democrats had negotiated short term solutions in the run up to the crisis, and were tired of it. Short term stopgap measures just give Republicans undeserved leverage to exact cuts to government programs they don't like.

3. The Cut Cap and Balance ""'"plan"""" is unrealistic and relies on the dumb, discredited assumption that you can only spend what you take in. For reference, see Europe and austerity.

4. See point two for Republicans and their short term solutions.

Regarding your whining on the war, the same could be said for now. Obama's had a successful foreign policy, but the mainstream media is focused on the economy, because it is the dominant concern these days, as the Iraq war was then. To their credit, I haven't seen any Democrats acting like crybabies and wishing the media would stop talking about Obama's economic troubles.

The Bush administration bungled Iraq from basically everything after the invasion, so a skeptical media is SUPPOSED to question the surge strategy and how effective it would be. Thats the definition of patriotism, its not partisan and its not rooting for failure.

On the other hand, we've had GOP leaders come out saying their biggest priority is to deny Obama a second term. And we've even seen FOX News come out with a clear anti-Obama ad during their regular news shows. Comparing this to the way Democrats and the media reacted to the Iraq surge is frankly like comparing apples and oranges.

Revisionist history fail.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Responding to three comments:

1.  Everyone with an IQ above 94 recalls that Bush had a fabulous economy when he had a Republican Congress.  Come to think of it, so did Clinton.  Hmmm....

2.  Four undeniable facts about last years debt ceiling crisis:

(1)  The Democrats had no long-term plan.
(2)  The Democrats refused to negotiate a short-term plan.
(3)  The Republicans had a long-term plan (called "Cut, Cap, and Balance").
(4)  The Republicans were willing to negotiate a short-term plan.

1) The 1994-2008 Republican party never did anything as reckless and irresponsible as the debt ceiling crisis.

2) No, they didn't. The Republicans kept moving the goal posts and acting completely irrationally in the budget negotiations. It was almost as if they were trying to force a default.

[old timey villain]

Thank god most people can see through their shenanigans, as evidenced by the latest polls that show a plurality of Americans believing the GOP congress is purposely sabotaging the economy. I guess they thought they could pull the wool over our eyes, and they probably figured it worked after the 2010 midterms, but I have a feeling it will backfire spectacularly this year.

If Obama is trying to pull a Truman, I'd say he's got the perfect congress for it, at least in the House. The stupidity, ineptitude, and recklessness will be the perfect foil for him.

[opebo]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

Stop blaming Bush, it's almost the end of Obama's 1st term and you're not over that?

While the collapse of the economy was technically baked-into-the-cake by Reagan, it really was Bush who is to blame - had we a Gore presidency the final nails in the coffin would not have been driven, and the crisis would very likely have been narrowly averted.

[pbrower2a]

Obviously +69,000 jobs a month is pretty lousy, but neither of the President George Bushes averaged that.

Stop blaming Bush, it's almost the end of Obama's 1st term and you're not over that?

Watch for Dubya-Romney comparisons as policies look similar.