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« on: January 18, 2005, 10:34:54 PM »
« edited: January 18, 2005, 10:37:13 PM by nclib »

55% of voters nationwide made more than $50,000. In 47 states, voters making over 50K were more Republican. In Wash. and N.D., wealthier voters (over 50K) were slightly more Democratic and in Neb. the result was the same.

This is the state-by-state map of voters making over 50K...



Map of those making under 50K...



LA and SC were toss-ups. DC should be 90%.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2005, 10:38:12 PM »

These maps are interesting since the wealthier states are more likely to vote Democratic.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 10:43:43 PM »

Whoever the next DNC chair is better work on registering low income voters.  So many people dont vote its ridiculous.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 11:20:32 PM »

This map is very intersting. Good work nclib
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2005, 11:42:00 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2005, 12:16:28 AM by Alcon »

Very interesting map.

Here's sub-$100,000:


And more than $100,000:


Alabama does not have enough wealthy people to report statistics.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2005, 11:58:52 PM »

I think PA (over 100K) should be blue.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2005, 12:01:25 AM »

Whoever the next DNC chair is better work on registering low income voters.  So many people dont vote its ridiculous.

It would be interesting to see these results broken down by race. Clearly the fact that Kerry won Mississippians under 50K is because that demographic in Miss. is predominantly black.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2005, 12:51:39 AM »

I live in the 2nd poorest county in California and we were 57% pro-Bush.

The sad fact is that our minority percentages are relatively high yet thier voting participation rate is 24%. Its more or less a job of mobilizing voters.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2005, 07:00:39 AM »

Way to fight the class war Democrats!!!
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2005, 02:10:00 PM »

Quick, find a way to disenfranchise wealthy people!
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2005, 03:32:39 PM »

Whoever the next DNC chair is better work on registering low income voters.  So many people dont vote its ridiculous.

It would be interesting to see these results broken down by race. Clearly the fact that Kerry won Mississippians under 50K is because that demographic in Miss. is predominantly black.

There are probably only a few hundred people in Mississippi that make more than 50K per annum.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2005, 03:47:15 PM »

So why did Bush win the State?
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2005, 03:50:27 PM »


My statement was hyperbolic.  It is a very poor state.  I should ask - is the $50,000 per year in individual income or 'household income'?
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2005, 03:50:59 PM »

I'd like to see some way of taking into account how many benefits the people get per dollar they send to the feds.

Or more simply, adjust for family size. Of course families with fewer people tend to make less, but they also pay higher taxes, and get less benefits from the feds.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2005, 04:50:10 PM »


My statement was hyperbolic.  It is a very poor state.  I should ask - is the $50,000 per year in individual income or 'household income'?



I think it is per person.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2005, 06:38:01 PM »


My statement was hyperbolic.  It is a very poor state.  I should ask - is the $50,000 per year in individual income or 'household income'?



I think it is per person.

Over half the workers in America making over $50,000? I doubt it. I think it is household income. If someone isn't lazy like me, they can easily do an easy quick check at the census website.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2005, 07:18:14 PM »


My statement was hyperbolic.  It is a very poor state.  I should ask - is the $50,000 per year in individual income or 'household income'?



I think it is per person.

Over half the workers in America making over $50,000? I doubt it. I think it is household income. If someone isn't lazy like me, they can easily do an easy quick check at the census website.

The median household income in 2003 was $43,318.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2005, 12:59:58 AM »

It's definitely household income. You sure save a lot on taxes if you aren't single.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2005, 01:41:59 AM »
« Edited: January 20, 2005, 02:53:02 AM by Senator Gabu »

Here are some other maps that may be of interest.  They compare, state by state, people earning under the two thresholds and people earning over the two thresholds:

Threshold of $50,000:



Threshold of $100,000:



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Percentages are calculated as follows:

(% on map) = (% under threshold) - (% over threshold).

  > 10% Bush
  < 10% (either)
  > 10% Kerry
  > 20% Kerry
  > 30% Kerry

Percentages of 50% for either candidates were considered to be equivalent.

Note: No, the color of Maine in the second map is not an error.  For whatever reason, richer people voted more Democratic than poorer people did in that state with the $100,000 threshold applied.  Nowhere else in any state did that happen.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2005, 04:12:11 AM »

Maine's figures are distorted by rich touristy places
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2005, 04:49:13 AM »

Maine's figures are distorted by rich touristy places

And in comes Al with the explanation. Smiley

I'm beginning to wonder what you don't know about the demographics of American states/counties...
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2005, 05:13:45 AM »

I'm beginning to wonder what you don't know about the demographics of American states/counties...

Probably quite a lot... but not a lot that I can't find out if I look :-)
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2005, 04:13:11 PM »

Here are some other maps that may be of interest.  They compare, state by state, people earning under the two thresholds and people earning over the two thresholds:

Threshold of $50,000:



Key:

Percentages are calculated as follows:

(% on map) = (% under threshold) - (% over threshold).

  > 10% Bush
  < 10% (either)
  > 10% Kerry
  > 20% Kerry
  > 30% Kerry

Percentages of 50% for either candidates were considered to be equivalent.

How exactly are you calculating this?

Take Alabama...


            Kerry      Bush
<50K      50          48
>50K      78          22


Would the number on the map be...

26 (48-22)

or

54 (78-22-(50-48))
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2005, 07:55:34 PM »


My statement was hyperbolic.  It is a very poor state.  I should ask - is the $50,000 per year in individual income or 'household income'?



I think it is per person.

Over half the workers in America making over $50,000? I doubt it. I think it is household income. If someone isn't lazy like me, they can easily do an easy quick check at the census website.

You must consider that everyone who works doesn't vote. Turnout was what, like 60%? So, that cuts out 40% of potential voters, most of whom I would assume work. I think it is also safe to say that those who are more educated(and thus are more likely to have a higher income) are more likely to vote than those who are not as educated.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2005, 08:22:50 PM »


My statement was hyperbolic.  It is a very poor state.  I should ask - is the $50,000 per year in individual income or 'household income'?



I think it is per person.

Over half the workers in America making over $50,000? I doubt it. I think it is household income. If someone isn't lazy like me, they can easily do an easy quick check at the census website.

You must consider that everyone who works doesn't vote. Turnout was what, like 60%? So, that cuts out 40% of potential voters, most of whom I would assume work. I think it is also safe to say that those who are more educated(and thus are more likely to have a higher income) are more likely to vote than those who are not as educated.

Yeah that tends to be true from what i hear. But, the reality of the matter is that people will almost always vote for whatever is good for them economicaly. Most people dont vote on social issues and adapt to the social issues of whatever party theyre in.
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