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« on: June 14, 2012, 06:19:04 AM »

I will post about it anyways. Smiley

The Communist Manifesto was a document of the moment, of a few years' zeitgeist. By the Crystal Palace Exhibition it was in deep crisis. By the time the improvement in living standards of the British working class began to be confirmed, the entire theory was discredited. And never would it have emerged from status as an obscure intellectual movement had it not been for one wrong turn in a little city called Sarajevo...

Great article, by the way. The Mandarins at the ECB know that they have short-circuited democracy and to them it is the greatest invention since sliced butter. They fully know what they are doing, to use their power to declare class war on European labor.

The great shortcoming of the "revolution", is that it was conceived as a solution for the particular problems of a particular time, the time being the capitalist age and the problems being the misery of the common man; those problems would continue indefinitely until the people moved to Socialism and eventually Communism. What Marx did not realize, however, was that he was not in the capitalist age, but its prologue, the end of the mercantilist age and the dawn of the capitalist one. Marx assumed that this period would be as far as man would go, but he was wrong. Instead it progressed onward, into the age of what I call "liberal democratic industrial capitalism", or Ldic. in the Ldic era we saw massive and simultaneous increases in both the wealth and political participation of the "proletarian"; this essentially made the Marxian revolution redundant. This period is almost neatly contained in the confines of the 20th century, with its height rather symmetrically around 1950 in the West.

By the time his theories had begun to gain currency, the Ldic age had almost begun in Western nations, which is why you don't see revolutions there. Indeed the revolutions was confined to states that had just begun the mercantilism age- Russia. One can even make the argument the sole revolution began in Russia and communism was spread politically from there. But that is irrelevant- what matters is that society had on its own managed to address the problems Marx identified without revolution. Reldago has said it in far more succinct terms- Marx's ideas have not aged well.

As I said before, the Ldic age is largely coterminous with the 20th century- and so it too is coming to an end. This, after all, is the postindustrial society! I still support industry, but any moves shall be medium term at best- automation shall reduce any labor left. I think we are now entering what could be called the "corporate creative capitalist culture" (let's call this 4C). Here we have and economy in which the innovator, producer, and manager are all being combined into singular role- a good example of this being Instagram. In such a society, the service society, there shall be first no need for a means of production or a person to specifically produce it, and then the "proletarian" shall not even be limited to drudgery but wholly unnecessary. This cannot be sustained, but Marxian revolution shall not answer it.

Cribbed from here: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152935.msg3282604#msg3282604
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