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Silent Hunter
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« on: June 20, 2012, 03:34:57 AM »

If Assange were sent to the US by Sweden (which is less likely than from the UK), I somehow doubt he'd be executed - a lot of people did even more damage than he did and only got life sentences.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 03:40:46 AM »


The Swedes claimed he was a flight risk as well... Am I correct in thinking he might have violated his bail conditions?
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 05:30:36 AM »

I don't get all this. Is Assange so deluded that he actually believes in the conspiracy theories or is he so sure of being found guilty?

He may just want to avoid having to return to Sweden at all costs.

Where they obviously are going to hang him (probably under CIA orders?)

Not saying you believe that Wink

Nah, Sweden just may be an awful place to spend your time.

True.  It produces people like Gustaf.

EDIT:  Worth pointing out that idealistic leftist idiots gave this scumbag 315,000 for his bail.  Since he's fleeing, the money is forfeited.  He just blew a third of a million dollars of his supporters' donated money on a ridiculous and likely-failed attempt to flee to Ecuador.

Ok, that is a fair point. Then again, pro-rape jerks should fit right in here!

I just wish to say he is suspected of being a rapist. Not guilty until proved so by the Court, which didn't pronounced yet on that.

Through, yes, him flying is suspicious and doesn't help his case (through it should have no effect on the trial, as him being guilty or not must be based on facts, not impressions.)

He's not even been charged in Sweden - at the moment they just want to talk to him.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 03:52:39 AM »


And they make such a deal of this? The Swede attorney/judge/whatever can take a plane and go in UK to talk to him, that would be simpler and quicker.

That isn't the way police forces operate on the whole. It is not hard for Assange to go to Stockholm himself - he can drive there in under 21 hours straight.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 04:29:50 AM »


And they make such a deal of this? The Swede attorney/judge/whatever can take a plane and go in UK to talk to him, that would be simpler and quicker.

That isn't the way police forces operate on the whole. It is not hard for Assange to go to Stockholm himself - he can drive there in under 21 hours straight.

And how cars leave UK? As far as I know, there is no bridge. Does Eurostar transport cars? The Dover-Calais boats, if they still exist?

Yes, that's correct. He could even get a ferry to Norway as well.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2012, 08:49:10 AM »

I will say one thing, the laws for rape in Sweden is stupid.

Please explain, I'd like to know why you think this.
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 08:39:43 AM »


And more importantly, wasn't he found innocent on said crimes beforehand?

IIRC, the Swedes dropped the investigation then re-activated it. He has still not been charged in Sweden - the warrant is an arrest for questioning.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 11:03:22 AM »

Today's the day for ignorant and offensive comments on rape.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 04:40:52 AM »

They had the authority of extrading him, but, he had the right to contest the extradition in front of courts, to delay it.
And, now, he is in an embassy, and entering it would violate international conventions and cause a diplomatic incident.

He'd been appealing the extradition and the British Supreme Court turned down his appeal. They gave him a two-week grace period to get his affairs in order or make an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights (IIRC), while he was still on bail.

He jumped that bail and went into the Embassy.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 11:23:09 AM »

Please lock this thread.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 03:51:22 AM »

Couldn't Assange just be taken from the embassy to a vehicle, carried inside a largeish crate, if it is properly marked as a diplomatic bag? Even if the British knew he was inside, they'd still be prohibited from opening it, no?

Diplomatic bags aren't allowed to be used to transport people. They'd be able to stop it if they suspected he was in it and refuse to allow it to go on a plane.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 08:59:41 AM »


It is interesting how the FCO position on the inviolability of diplomatic bags has changed, isn't it?

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