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« on: June 19, 2012, 06:03:45 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 07:43:34 PM »

Ron Paul's lack of understanding of foreign issues once again put on display for all to see.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 08:13:18 PM »

Ron Paul's lack of understanding of foreign issues once again put on display for all to see.
Give me a break. Do you think they really care about helping the Syrian people? Yes, if we intervened, civilian casualties would be massive. That right there should be the main reason to stay out-Syria is not Libya. It has a clustered population. But that would not help stop the intervention. They will do it if they want to. If we are going to intervene, then we are going to be intervening.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 10:24:28 PM »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 10:27:39 PM »

The overseas military expansion has to stop somewhere.  Kudos to Paul.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 10:52:31 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2012, 10:56:16 PM by Purch »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

That's an extremely small sided view, realizing that America shouldn't involve itself in every humanitarian/strategic conflict or civil war doesn't mean you advocate civilian massacres. If anything it just signals that you understand countries and their people should be able to handle their own affairs without some outside power implementing a "Non oppressive" pro American government.

Your post just reeks of "America needs to be the police of the world" because other countries can't be left to handle their own affairs.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 12:02:28 AM »
« Edited: June 20, 2012, 12:05:23 AM by 'cool,' the term 'cool,' could in some ways be deemed racial »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

Ahem. https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=154752.0

(Of course, ignored by this forum, along with the US media which has, typically, just stopped reporting on the story).
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 12:22:06 AM »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

I'm not 100% behind Paul's foreign policy, but not wanting to get involved in conflicts oversees =/= supporting civilian massacres.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 08:36:21 AM »

I respect his view here- but he did not say what I believe the key point is... we do not know who the "good" guys are! I've read that the rebels are banning Christians from their controlled territory... if that is the case, I would not support spending a dime or- more importantly- an ounce of blood to put them in power
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2012, 01:31:29 PM »

Give me a break. Do you think they really care about helping the Syrian people? Yes, if we intervened, civilian casualties would be massive. That right there should be the main reason to stay out-Syria is not Libya. It has a clustered population. But that would not help stop the intervention. They will do it if they want to. If we are going to intervene, then we are going to be intervening.

I never claimed that it was about the Syrian people. It's about neutralizing and Iranian and Russian ally in the region.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2012, 02:42:08 PM »

I respect his view here- but he did not say what I believe the key point is... we do not know who the "good" guys are! I've read that the rebels are banning Christians from their controlled territory... if that is the case, I would not support spending a dime or- more importantly- an ounce of blood to put them in power

     I've also heard speculation that a rebel victory would lead to pogroms against the Alawite minority. Assad is a rotten character, but it's hardly clear that the rebels would be any good either.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2012, 06:08:42 PM »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

I'm glad you finally admitted your enthusiastic support for Bush's invasion on Iraq back in 2002.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2012, 06:45:23 PM »

Ron Paul's support of opposition to the civilian massacres that would occur if we started bombing Syria is disgusting inspiring.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 10:10:54 PM »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

Please try to take the time out of your day to be useful to the forum. Please.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2012, 12:46:55 AM »

The overseas military expansion has to stop somewhere.  Kudos to Paul.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2012, 12:58:03 AM »

The bizarro world repulsion towards intervening in genocides and massive governmental abuses with respect to the relative elation with nation-building isn't even in the realm of disturbing anymore. It's just another nonsensical embarrassment that seems to have widespread acceptance and even support. Thank GOD for ideological purity/political profiteering.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 08:44:16 AM »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

I presume you would whole-heartedly agree with his position on the Iraq War.

Despite the fact there were, cough, civilian massacres there too.
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 09:33:24 AM »

Ron Paul's lack of understanding of foreign issues once again put on display for all to see.

On the contrary, I've always said that he's the only republican that understands international relations theory.
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 03:32:20 PM »

Ron Paul's support of civilian massacres is disgusting.

The bizarro world repulsion towards intervening in genocides and massive governmental abuses with respect to the relative elation with nation-building isn't even in the realm of disturbing anymore. It's just another nonsensical embarrassment that seems to have widespread acceptance and even support. Thank GOD for ideological purity/political profiteering.

At least some here still support the stopping of mass political killings. Its very sad that the consensus of humanitarian interventions is gone for now.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 04:37:04 PM »

Wasn't the last "humanitarian war" (Libya) propaganda and oil interests for Sarkozy? Not again.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 06:35:57 PM »

Why continue to intervene in every corner of the world, when our own house is such a mess?
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 07:31:46 PM »

Why continue to intervene in every corner of the world, when our own house is such a mess?

Because super-wealthy investors losing money isn't quite on the same level of humanitarian crisis as a nation being tortured by its leaders with no end in sight.
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2012, 08:39:16 AM »

Paul continues to be an asinine ideologue.

The idea letting Assad's regime stand would be better for Syrians is ridiculous and embarrassing to anyone who suggests it.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2012, 08:42:34 AM »

Paul continues to be an asinine ideologue.

The idea letting Assad's regime stand would be better for Syrians is ridiculous and embarrassing to anyone who suggests it.

The idea is that it's better for America if Americans do not die overseas.
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2012, 11:32:15 AM »
« Edited: June 30, 2012, 11:35:15 AM by magbar anti-American national or club soccer aficionadoes »

Paul continues to be an asinine ideologue.

The idea letting Assad's regime stand would be better for Syrians is ridiculous and embarrassing to anyone who suggests it.

The idea is that it's better for America if Americans do not die overseas.

The idea is that it's better for America, and the world, to not have innocent people be slaughtered by a dictator. Your phrase is idiotic. It's like suggesting that had we known about the Holocaust we shouldn't have intervened because "Americans might die". Don't tell me that was different. Is there some number of people killed at which point some switch turns on and an intervention becomes acceptable? Nonsense. We have a moral obligation as a nation with the means to help those in Syria to help them. Every nation with the means to do so does. It's simple human decency.
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