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« Reply #450 on: October 03, 2013, 10:54:09 AM »

Cécilia Attas has written a tell-all memoir.   Also, more financial investigations into her ex.
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« Reply #451 on: October 03, 2013, 01:55:16 PM »

Apparently Cecilia whined about her being deeply hurt by something (I think invasion of her private life etc) and her life being complicated or something. And then this: organiser une fête privée à l'hôtel Fouquet's n'avait rien d'incongru, c'était une manière d'honorer Paris et la France et d'associer notre joie à un lieu que nos concitoyens aimaient (Hash's translation: organizing an exclusive party for our rich white friends when Poison Dwarf won was not incongruous, it was a way to honour Paris and France and associate our joy to a place which the French people like...)

And she also says that "she saved lives" with the Bulgarian nurses and Gaddafi in 2007. Everybody knows that Gaddafi released them because Poison Dwarf bribed him and/or he owed him something after paying for his 2007 campaign.

What a sheltered little bourgeois snob. Go back to your Upper East Side den, and stop pestering people with your rich problems nobody cares about.

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« Reply #452 on: October 03, 2013, 02:09:47 PM »

So this is totally unrelated to politics but it has to do with France and maps so w.e. Nintendo has released their map of the new region for the next Pokemon game:



ah those Japanese
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« Reply #453 on: October 03, 2013, 03:53:51 PM »

Too much mountains, but I can guarantee that the snow in Lorraine is well placed... Kiki
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« Reply #454 on: October 07, 2013, 04:11:09 AM »

Fun news of the day: some obscure article in a law passed by Poison Dwarf in 2010 allows me to vote for the European Parliament... in the Ile-de-France constituency Cheesy

I envy you: being able to vote for Pécresse Tongue
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« Reply #455 on: October 07, 2013, 07:50:18 AM »

Fun news of the day: some obscure article in a law passed by Poison Dwarf in 2010 allows me to vote for the European Parliament... in the Ile-de-France constituency Cheesy

I envy you: being able to vote for Pécresse Tongue

Well, I suppose you'll get Béchu, as he is running in all list elections in Western France (and resigning if he loses).
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« Reply #456 on: October 07, 2013, 07:55:54 AM »

Do we already have hints as to who will lead the main lists in the constituencies ? I know talks have started, but I don't hear much.
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« Reply #457 on: October 07, 2013, 08:16:39 AM »

Do we already have hints as to who will lead the main lists in the constituencies ? I know talks have started, but I don't hear much.

I saw things about Île-de-France, but not much more.
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« Reply #458 on: October 07, 2013, 09:40:14 AM »

The Bettencourt-Sarko investigation has been dropped.
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« Reply #459 on: October 07, 2013, 07:44:54 PM »


As a wise man once said, Sarkozy will be re-elected.
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« Reply #460 on: October 09, 2013, 10:00:38 AM »

In shocking news for today:
UMP deputies continue to be sexist pigs: http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/10/09/caquetement-d-un-depute-ump-lors-de-l-intervention-d-une-elue-eelv_3492289_823448.html
Alain Delon, tax evader, homophobe and racist idiot, praises the FN: http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/10/09/alain-delon-soutient-la-progression-du-front-national_3492655_823448.html
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« Reply #461 on: October 09, 2013, 10:49:22 AM »

Alain Delon, tax evader, homophobe and racist idiot, praises the FN

Not really a surprise, he was a big friend of Léon Degrelle during the latter's exile in Spain.
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« Reply #462 on: October 09, 2013, 03:52:40 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2013, 03:55:32 PM by PASOK Leader Hashemite »

Gerard Collomb, Moderate Hero extraordinaire, will apparently protest with the employers' organization (MEDEF) against the government's economic policy. He's also a PS mayor running for reelection next year.

Source: http://www.lyoncapitale.fr/Journal/Lyon/Actualite/Economie/Collomb-avec-le-MEDEF-et-la-CGPME-contre-le-Gouvernement

My daily contribution to the morons who think the FN isn't a far-right party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2fOpW7lbyQ (FN MEP Bruno Gollnisch, Holocaust denier in chief, speaking at a Hungarian Nazi rally)
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« Reply #463 on: October 10, 2013, 02:41:44 AM »

And Gérard Collomb also has the PCF of Lyon on its first round list like little dumb traitor soldiers. Sigh...
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« Reply #464 on: October 13, 2013, 01:45:58 PM »

FN wins Brignoles by-election with 53.4%.
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« Reply #465 on: October 13, 2013, 05:42:55 PM »

The first round of the PS' "primaires citoyennes" for the munis were today, most notably in Marseille where it was a very hot and acrimonious 6 candidate race (naturally, it is Marseillais PS politics!). Apparently, PS senator Samia Ghali (from northern Marseille, and fairly pro-Guérini mafia clan) and PS deputy Patrick Mennucci (from central Marseille, pretty strongly anti-Guérini now) have qualified for the runoff, the defeated include Marie-Arlette Carlotti, a cabinet minister.

A few good articles for those interested (highly recommended):
http://www.slate.fr/france/78762/primaire-marseille-caselli-carlotti-ghali-mennucci-guerini
http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/10/03/samia-ghali-la-segolene-royal-de-marseille-bouscule-la-campagne-ps_3489347_823448.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/10/09/a-marseille-le-sprint-final-des-candidats-a-la-primaire-ps_3492296_823448.html
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« Reply #466 on: October 13, 2013, 05:55:02 PM »

I was more of a Carlotti kind of guy : she seemed like the only quiet, peaceful and, well, Parisian of the candidates... Now I don't care either way. Well, before, I didn't care either, but, you know...
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« Reply #467 on: October 14, 2013, 02:23:51 AM »

The first round of the PS' "primaires citoyennes" for the munis were today, most notably in Marseille where it was a very hot and acrimonious 6 candidate race (naturally, it is Marseillais PS politics!). Apparently, PS senator Samia Ghali (from northern Marseille, and fairly pro-Guérini mafia clan) and PS deputy Patrick Mennucci (from central Marseille, pretty strongly anti-Guérini now) have qualified for the runoff, the defeated include Marie-Arlette Carlotti, a cabinet minister.

A few good articles for those interested (highly recommended):
http://www.slate.fr/france/78762/primaire-marseille-caselli-carlotti-ghali-mennucci-guerini
http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/10/03/samia-ghali-la-segolene-royal-de-marseille-bouscule-la-campagne-ps_3489347_823448.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/10/09/a-marseille-le-sprint-final-des-candidats-a-la-primaire-ps_3492296_823448.html

Complete results are on the PS website (also for Aix, Béziers and Le Havre).
Mennucci hasn't won yet... as Caselli and Jibrayel voters will probably go to Ghali and as Masse voters may split.

Maybe some Gaudin supporters have voted for Ghali, hoping that she will explode during the municipal campaign Grin
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« Reply #468 on: October 14, 2013, 08:50:29 AM »

Marseille results:
Samia Ghali (senator, mayor of the 8th sector, pro-Guérini) 25.25%
Patrick Mennucci (deputy, mayor of the 1st sector, nowadays anti-Guérini) 20.65%
Marie-Arlette Carlotti (cabinet minister, deputy, anti-Guérini/probably Flanby/Ayrault-Zero's candidate) 19.52%
Eugène Caselli (president of the urban community, formerly pro-Guérini) 16.57%
Christophe Masse (vice-president of the general council, anti-Mennucci, pro-Guérini) 14.29%
Henri Jibrayel (deputy, anti-Ghali, formerly pro-Guérini) 3.71%

20,700 voters.

Carlotti and Jibrayel have endorsed Mennucci, since both of them (especially the latter) hate Ghali. Masse will probably support Ghali because he hates Mennucci.
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« Reply #469 on: October 14, 2013, 03:10:38 PM »

Cross-posted from the other thread...


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« Reply #470 on: October 16, 2013, 05:24:26 AM »

Very useful maps.

All the candidates, except Masse (who doesn't choose), are now behind Mennucci.

Well, it's a good thing for Ghali: she's now the "anti-system" and "anti-Paris" candidate... Quite funny for someone probably supported by Guérini (anti-system, eh ?...).

Jibrayel, Masse and most of Caselli voters will vote for Ghali, despite what their candidates say.

I'm more and more convinced she can win.

After all, Gaudin may be able to be reelected next March, as socialists will probably fight each other and as Ghali will probably lead a municipal campaign "à la Royal".
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« Reply #471 on: October 16, 2013, 07:15:35 AM »

The national PS doesn't even have the balls to rig a local primary anymore... How sad. Tongue
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« Reply #472 on: October 16, 2013, 01:39:30 PM »

Well, it's a good thing for Ghali: she's now the "anti-system" and "anti-Paris" candidate... Quite funny for someone probably supported by Guérini (anti-system, eh ?...).

Well, it's basically a fight between two systems/establishments: the Paris/Solferino/Matignon PS system and the PS 13 system. 

The anti-Paris stuff is probably going to be lucrative for Ghali, I can imagine that kind of stuff playing very well. It seems that her entire runoff campaign consists of calling Mennucci the "candidate of Matignon" and bitching about that as much as possible.
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« Reply #473 on: October 16, 2013, 02:04:18 PM »


Don't be so sure.
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« Reply #474 on: October 16, 2013, 05:00:43 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2013, 05:02:47 PM by Mr Bear, King of Animals »

Well, today, the members of Paris' PCF started a 3-day vote on whether they should have a Left Front list in next March's municipal election's first round in Paris or unite with the PS as soon as the first round. Results should be known Sunday or Monday.

There is nearly no doubt as to the fact that they will decide for the latter option. First, their leadership has presented them with the choice not quite impartially, stating that the first option could give them only something like 6 or 7 Paris' councillors, whereas the option with the PS would give them much more, something like 15. They have 8 incumbents by the way, and another important thing to know is that Pierre Laurent absolutely needs 11 councillors to keep is senatorial seat in the next senatorial election...

What we do not yet know, is whether their choice will or will not mean the short or middle-term death of the Left Front. Going on the same list as Hollande-Ayrault's PS at this time is more than political seppuku, but they have had a bad habit of outliving their earnings, and now they want to preserve their way of life at all costs. Even destroying the FG and risking obliteration in the following years, because the FG was the only thing that rescued them from oblivion a few years ago, and they cannot win anything on their own anymore.

The main risk is the media : the French media is arguably one of the dumbest in the world. They are not as scandalous or openly populist and vulgar as other countries', but they are hopelessly dumb. They have a tendency to spin their whole coverage of the municipal elections on what happens in Paris, Lyon and Marseille, and preferably on what happens in Paris alone.

So the Paris' PCF vote has not only an impact on the Parisian FG, but on its situation in the whole country, because the media will label it as "Severe discrepancies in an endangered FG" (Le Monde or Libé) or "The FG is dead" (20 minutes or Figaro).

Just as side note, in Lyon they are going with Collomb as soon as the first round, Collomb of all people... Whereas in Marseille they chose an independent FG list, which could or could not benefit from a probable trainwreck of a Ghali campaign.

One hilarious thing though : on Monday, in the FG's national liaison committe with representatives of each component, the PCF said they would like to start working on elaborating the FG's lists for the European Parliament elections, set two months after the municipals, and would like to have the heads of regional lists and the campaign apparel set to launch before Christmas...

Les cons, ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît...

(PS : as a result of PCF leaving in Paris, it opens a lot of spots on the "what's-left-of-the-FG" lists, and I should probably be, way down though, on one of them Wink)
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