France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sarko's officially in.

Jail?

If only... *sigh*

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

So I am assuming (or hoping) that Juppé will defeat Sarkozy in the primary. Would that be somewhat correct assumption?

[Antonio the Sixth]

So I am assuming (or hoping) that Juppé will defeat Sarkozy in the primary. Would that be somewhat correct assumption?

Juppé is leading right now, but he's nowhere near safe.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Good news, for a change! Hollande comes out against TTIP.

That's the best thing he's done in months if not years.

[Zanas]

Also, Macron resigned from Economy Minister. It seems the media buzz about how his potential presidential bid would be so cool, modern and refreshing, got to his head and he started believing it. Good. His fall is only going to be more entertaining.

[windjammer]

Also, Macron resigned from Economy Minister. It seems the media buzz about how his potential presidential bid would be so cool, modern and refreshing, got to his head and he started believing it. Good. His fall is only going to be more entertaining.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Antonio the Sixth]

Also, Macron resigned from Economy Minister. It seems the media buzz about how his potential presidential bid would be so cool, modern and refreshing, got to his head and he started believing it. Good. His fall is only going to be more entertaining.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, that's gonna be fun.

[DavidB.]

Good news, for a change! Hollande comes out against TTIP.

That's the best thing he's done in months if not years.

Fyck Hollande. This will likely cost us a referendum (including maps).

But yeah, this may be for the best.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Macron is a terrible person but he strikes me as a Saint compared to the two plausible alternatives (LR president or LePen) so I hope he doesn't experience a "fall". Melenchon is a total mess/waste, Hollande is a non-starter etc.

[Angel of Death]

Good news, for a change! Hollande comes out against TTIP.

That's the best thing he's done in months if not years.

Yeah, real brave after TTIP was already declared dead by the German Minister for Economic Affairs, which the international press took as an all but official announcement.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is there any chance that neither Hollande or the LR candidate make it to the runoff, and that the French Presidential election is between Le Pen and Melenchon (kind of like the 2016 Austrian Presidential runoff), and if so, what would the runoff results between the two be?

The chances 0%. Mélenchon has never managed to pick up steam, and at this rate he'll probably do worse than his 2012 performance. At best he'll have a new surge and end up around 15% if the PS candidate collapse, but that's highly unlikely.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is there any chance that neither Hollande or the LR candidate make it to the runoff, and that the French Presidential election is between Le Pen and Melenchon (kind of like the 2016 Austrian Presidential runoff), and if so, what would the runoff results between the two be?

The chances 0%. Mélenchon has never managed to pick up steam, and at this rate he'll probably do worse than his 2012 performance. At best he'll have a new surge and end up around 15% if the PS candidate collapse, but that's highly unlikely.

Ah, appreciate the response. Do you think FDG would benefit from having a different candidate, or is Melenchon the best they can do?

Mélenchon is definitely the best they can do. Remember that the last PCF candidate before Mélenchon came in (and for all intents and purposes, FG = PCF + Mélenchon) polled below 2%.

[DC Al Fine]

Is there any chance that neither Hollande or the LR candidate make it to the runoff, and that the French Presidential election is between Le Pen and Melenchon (kind of like the 2016 Austrian Presidential runoff), and if so, what would the runoff results between the two be?

The chances 0%. Mélenchon has never managed to pick up steam, and at this rate he'll probably do worse than his 2012 performance. At best he'll have a new surge and end up around 15% if the PS candidate collapse, but that's highly unlikely.

Ah, appreciate the response. Do you think FDG would benefit from having a different candidate, or is Melenchon the best they can do?

Mélenchon is definitely the best they can do. Remember that the last PCF candidate before Mélenchon came in (and for all intents and purposes, FG = PCF + Mélenchon) polled below 2%.

I see in the 2007 presidential election something called Ligue communiste révolutionnaire got nearly 5%, well ahead of the PCF candidate. Would they not be part of FG?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is there any chance that neither Hollande or the LR candidate make it to the runoff, and that the French Presidential election is between Le Pen and Melenchon (kind of like the 2016 Austrian Presidential runoff), and if so, what would the runoff results between the two be?

The chances 0%. Mélenchon has never managed to pick up steam, and at this rate he'll probably do worse than his 2012 performance. At best he'll have a new surge and end up around 15% if the PS candidate collapse, but that's highly unlikely.

Ah, appreciate the response. Do you think FDG would benefit from having a different candidate, or is Melenchon the best they can do?

Mélenchon is definitely the best they can do. Remember that the last PCF candidate before Mélenchon came in (and for all intents and purposes, FG = PCF + Mélenchon) polled below 2%.

I see in the 2007 presidential election something called Ligue communiste révolutionnaire got nearly 5%, well ahead of the PCF candidate. Would they not be part of FG?

Hahahahaha, no.

LCR (which has since renamed itself NPA) is a Trotskyist outfit, and as such they loathe the PCF more than the plague. It ran a candidate in 2012, who got 1%.

[DC Al Fine]

Is there any chance that neither Hollande or the LR candidate make it to the runoff, and that the French Presidential election is between Le Pen and Melenchon (kind of like the 2016 Austrian Presidential runoff), and if so, what would the runoff results between the two be?

The chances 0%. Mélenchon has never managed to pick up steam, and at this rate he'll probably do worse than his 2012 performance. At best he'll have a new surge and end up around 15% if the PS candidate collapse, but that's highly unlikely.

Ah, appreciate the response. Do you think FDG would benefit from having a different candidate, or is Melenchon the best they can do?

Mélenchon is definitely the best they can do. Remember that the last PCF candidate before Mélenchon came in (and for all intents and purposes, FG = PCF + Mélenchon) polled below 2%.

I see in the 2007 presidential election something called Ligue communiste révolutionnaire got nearly 5%, well ahead of the PCF candidate. Would they not be part of FG?

Hahahahaha, no.

LCR (which has since renamed itself NPA) is a Trotskyist outfit, and as such they loathe the PCF more than the plague. It ran a candidate in 2012, who got 1%.

Oh ok. Why'd they do so well in 2002 and 2007?

[DavidB.]

The best thing about French presidential elections is the number of weird candidates that apparently still attract tens and sometimes hundreds of thousands of voters in the first round.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is there any chance that neither Hollande or the LR candidate make it to the runoff, and that the French Presidential election is between Le Pen and Melenchon (kind of like the 2016 Austrian Presidential runoff), and if so, what would the runoff results between the two be?

The chances 0%. Mélenchon has never managed to pick up steam, and at this rate he'll probably do worse than his 2012 performance. At best he'll have a new surge and end up around 15% if the PS candidate collapse, but that's highly unlikely.

Ah, appreciate the response. Do you think FDG would benefit from having a different candidate, or is Melenchon the best they can do?

Mélenchon is definitely the best they can do. Remember that the last PCF candidate before Mélenchon came in (and for all intents and purposes, FG = PCF + Mélenchon) polled below 2%.

I see in the 2007 presidential election something called Ligue communiste révolutionnaire got nearly 5%, well ahead of the PCF candidate. Would they not be part of FG?

Hahahahaha, no.

LCR (which has since renamed itself NPA) is a Trotskyist outfit, and as such they loathe the PCF more than the plague. It ran a candidate in 2012, who got 1%.

Oh ok. Why'd they do so well in 2002 and 2007?

They had a young, charismatic and telegenic candidate. When said candidate made good on his pledge to only run twice, his successor didn't live up to him, and the "charismatic telegenic leftist" banner was passed along to Mélenchon.

[Antonio the Sixth]

MEP and deputy leader of Bayrou's party caught jerking off in a store in the city where I used to live (and where I am right now).

Can't. Make. This. Sh*t. Up.

[Cassius]

Never change France.

[DC Al Fine]

I first read that as Francois Bayrou caught...

That would have been something

[Antonio the Sixth]

I first read that as Francois Bayrou caught...

That would have been something

It would... even more of something than it already is.

Sorry for the confusion though. Edited the headline to clarify.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

So I assume he'll be president soon?

[Hash]

He needs a good slapping!

[Famous Mortimer]

I have a question about Chevenement being appointed the head of the Muslim relations or whatever.

As much as it is mocked, I've seen references before to Chevenement actually having close ties to the Muslim community. How is that? That seems unlikely given his republican ideology. Is he considered a friend of Muslim because he opposed the Gulf Wars? Is he an associate of Muslims but only like totally secular Uncle Tom Muslims?

[Antonio the Sixth]

I have a question about Chevenement being appointed the head of the Muslim relations or whatever.

As much as it is mocked, I've seen references before to Chevenement actually having close ties to the Muslim community. How is that? That seems unlikely given his republican ideology. Is he considered a friend of Muslim because he opposed the Gulf Wars? Is he an associate of Muslims but only like totally secular Uncle Tom Muslims?

You need endorsements from 500 officeholders (usually mayors since there are, you know 36K of them to choose from). You have to collect their signatures and submit them to the Constitutional Council, usually in early March. The official list of candidates is made public in mid-March.