Will Romney cut jobs to make government more efficient?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 18, 2024, 11:44:10 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2012 Elections
  Will Romney cut jobs to make government more efficient?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Will Romney cut jobs to make government more efficient?  (Read 1870 times)
milhouse24
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,331
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:59:30 PM »

As an business consultant, Romney attempted to make businesses more efficient, productive, and profitable.  Often times this meant laying off workers and finding cheaper labor overseas.  These acts may have been essential for the survival of bankrupt or struggling companies.

However, the US government, can borrow forever and run up deficits.  Would it be more prudent for the President to borrow and spend on keeping Americans employed, even if that increases inefficiency and the deficit? 

Is it even possible to make a leaner federal government, but also upset fired workers and losing votes?  Do you think American workers are just happy at getting paychecks, living off loans, and voting for whoever gives them the most benefits?  Is it better to get votes by deficit spending and building bubbles? 

As an efficiency expert, would Romney be forced to decide whether to cut jobs and spending or create jobs through inefficient means? 
Logged
WhyteRain
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 949
Political Matrix
E: 6.19, S: -2.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 03:08:18 PM »

I would like to outsource the defense of Europe.  And most of the rest of our overseas empire.
Logged
Ljube
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,029
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 05:03:15 PM »

The US government cannot borrow forever. Eventually, the cost of borrowing will rise and the budget will collapse.

Therefore, Romney will cut jobs in the public sector (I like firing people). Jobs in the public sector aren't real jobs as those people don't produce anything.
Logged
H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
Alfred F. Jones
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,100
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 05:24:15 PM »

Therefore, Romney will cut jobs in the public sector (I like firing people). Jobs in the public sector aren't real jobs as those people don't produce anything.


Yes, because firefighters, policemen, and teachers don't contribute a thing to society and therefore can afford to be cut beyond their current levels.
Logged
pbrower2a
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 26,858
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 07:19:13 PM »

As an business consultant, Romney attempted to make businesses more efficient, productive, and profitable.  Often times this meant laying off workers and finding cheaper labor overseas.  These acts may have been essential for the survival of bankrupt or struggling companies.

However, the US government, can borrow forever and run up deficits.  Would it be more prudent for the President to borrow and spend on keeping Americans employed, even if that increases inefficiency and the deficit? 

Is it even possible to make a leaner federal government, but also upset fired workers and losing votes?  Do you think American workers are just happy at getting paychecks, living off loans, and voting for whoever gives them the most benefits?  Is it better to get votes by deficit spending and building bubbles? 

As an efficiency expert, would Romney be forced to decide whether to cut jobs and spending or create jobs through inefficient means? 

Cast off a few million workers and the relief ranks swell, so such is a false economy. Mitt Romney would bring the 'double dip' and turn a recovery from the worst economic meltdown in 80 years into something as bad as the meltdown that began the Great Depression.
Logged
timothyinMD
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 438


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 07:36:56 PM »

Therefore, Romney will cut jobs in the public sector (I like firing people). Jobs in the public sector aren't real jobs as those people don't produce anything.


Yes, because firefighters, policemen, and teachers don't contribute a thing to society and therefore can afford to be cut beyond their current levels.

Typical Democrat-speak..  "The government"=police, fire, teachers
Logged
zorkpolitics
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,188
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 07:56:37 PM »

I certainly hope Romney cuts government jobs and makes the government more efficient, saving taxpayers money and making the government more productive.
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,069
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 08:04:39 PM »

Therefore, Romney will cut jobs in the public sector (I like firing people). Jobs in the public sector aren't real jobs as those people don't produce anything.


Yes, because firefighters, policemen, and teachers don't contribute a thing to society and therefore can afford to be cut beyond their current levels.

Typical Democrat-speak..  "The government"=police, fire, teachers


Almost none of whom work for the federal government to boot, and almost all of whom are over-pensioned, and at least as to fire fighters in CA, grossly overpaid as well.
Logged
memphis
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,959


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 08:30:56 PM »

fire fighters in CA, grossly overpaid as well.

A bold statement from a lawyer in a part of the country constantly plagued by wildfires.
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,069
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 08:36:05 PM »

fire fighters in CA, grossly overpaid as well.

A bold statement from a lawyer in a part of the country constantly plagued by wildfires.

The dangerous and exhausting work of fighting wildfires in the hills are fought by underpaid kids. "Firefighters" work the pavement (mostly as paramedics these days rather than putting out actual structural fires, along with as an escort for a paramedic vehicle, a full sized fire engine truck, just in case, someone who called 911 might need a rescue from a second floor window or something, aka featherbedding) - they never go up in the hills.
Logged
argentarius
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 843
Ireland, Republic of


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2012, 08:41:46 PM »

The US government cannot borrow forever. Eventually, the cost of borrowing will rise and the budget will collapse.
But why would the cost rise? The US has an outstanding record on repaying it's debt so lending money to the US government is a very good place to put your money for people who don't need all their money to be easily accessable. Unless a Ron Paul type gets the presidency the lending could go on for some time.
Logged
Lincoln Republican
Winfield
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,348


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 10:34:57 PM »

President Romney will be creating jobs in the private sector, eliminating waste in the public sector, and ensuring that all essential service jobs, i.e. medical, policing, firefighting, etc.,  are adequately staffed, ensuring the public safety is not at risk.

Logged
Purch
Rookie
**
Posts: 196


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 05:56:08 AM »

The US government cannot borrow forever. Eventually, the cost of borrowing will rise and the budget will collapse.
But why would the cost rise? The US has an outstanding record on repaying it's debt so lending money to the US government is a very good place to put your money for people who don't need all their money to be easily accessable. Unless a Ron Paul type gets the presidency the lending could go on for some time.

I get the impression that once Europe stabilizes it's crisis, or the euro collapses, the world's gonna take a hard look at America and it's lack of long terms solutions to it's debt.
Logged
krazen1211
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,372


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 08:44:02 AM »

Well, Romney won't, directly.

The heavily bloated state/local governments that have a bunch of donuts on the payroll will be cutting off the excess weight. The good people of Wisconsin recently stated, twice, that the mischief by the public sector unions in Dane County is out of order and will not be tolerated.
Logged
Vosem
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,637
United States


Political Matrix
E: 8.13, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 09:01:19 AM »

As an business consultant, Romney attempted to make businesses more efficient, productive, and profitable.  Often times this meant laying off workers and finding cheaper labor overseas.  These acts may have been essential for the survival of bankrupt or struggling companies.

However, the US government, can borrow forever and run up deficits.  Would it be more prudent for the President to borrow and spend on keeping Americans employed, even if that increases inefficiency and the deficit? 

Is it even possible to make a leaner federal government, but also upset fired workers and losing votes?  Do you think American workers are just happy at getting paychecks, living off loans, and voting for whoever gives them the most benefits?  Is it better to get votes by deficit spending and building bubbles? 

As an efficiency expert, would Romney be forced to decide whether to cut jobs and spending or create jobs through inefficient means? 

Cast off a few million workers and the relief ranks swell, so such is a false economy. Mitt Romney would bring the 'double dip' and turn a recovery from the worst economic meltdown in 80 years into something as bad as the meltdown that began the Great Depression.

Not necessarily...the government will end up with more money that can be spent on infrastructure projects that would create far more jobs -- and even military spending contributes to job growth. The recovery under Mitt Romney, the way I see it, would pretty much continue the same way as under President Obama.
Logged
milhouse24
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,331
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 09:09:52 PM »

Romney may end up helping corporations more than workers.
He may create tax shelters for corporations and other 1% but doesn't help people find jobs. 

He has to find a way to keep jobs in America instead of outsourcing. 

Obama doesn't seem to have a solution for outsourcing. 
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.047 seconds with 14 queries.