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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 25, 2012, 06:33:15 PM »

And there you have it, folks. American democracy is dead.

This quote right here. The Supreme Court just ensured that the ultra-rich will be able to control all but a few elections.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 07:09:12 PM »

And there you have it, folks. American democracy is dead.

This quote right here. The Supreme Court just ensured that the ultra-rich will be able to control all but a few elections.

But the individual ultra-rich have had that power confirmed to them since the 70's. CU only extends that same ability to groups that together can match the wealth of individuals.

Well, sure, for unions maybe. But the ultra-rich are usually involved in corporations in some way, so Citizens United confirms how powerful they are.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 01:34:14 PM »

And there you have it, folks. American democracy is dead.

This quote right here. The Supreme Court just ensured that the ultra-rich will be able to control all but a few elections.

The "Ultra Rich" are supporting both sides with big money.

Of course; when did I ever say they didn't? Obama (for example) has gotten a lot more corporate money than union money. That's why I believe this decision is so terrible; because it ensures that both sides are bought and paid for.

Incorporation (which has been around since Gitlow 90 years ago) is a pretty logical conclusion of the 14th Amendment and overturning it would overturn...pretty much the entirety of Fourth and Fifth Amendment jurisprudence. 

How so? I don't follow most Supreme Court decisions and precedent, but how would overturning the idea that non-human entities (like corporations and unions) are legally persons overturn the Fourth and Fifth Amendment?
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