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FallenMorgan
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« on: July 01, 2012, 06:30:04 PM »
Currently in the United States, both the left and the right seem to agree on support for Israel.  What few pro-Palestine people there are are either portrayed as right-wing antisemites or left-wing loonies.

When will criticism of Israel ever become mainstream in American politics?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 06:57:46 PM »
Quote from: The Mikado on July 01, 2012, 06:33:30 PM
How many Israel threads have you made this weekend alone?

This is the only one, isn't it?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 07:25:49 PM »

It's sad really, especially when you consider that Israel violates international law a lot more than Iran.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 04:41:19 PM »
Quote from: hawkeye59 on July 02, 2012, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: BritishDixie on July 02, 2012, 03:28:33 AM
Quote from: Free Palestine on July 01, 2012, 06:30:04 PM
Currently in the United States, both the left and the right seem to agree on support for Israel.  What few pro-Palestine people there are are either portrayed as right-wing antisemites or left-wing loonies.

When will criticism of Israel ever become mainstream in American politics?

Hopefully never.

Quote from: Free Palestine on July 01, 2012, 07:25:49 PM

It's sad really, especially when you consider that Israel violates international law a lot more than Iran.

But on the other hand Israel has never held 52 Americans hostage for 14 months. Neither does it stone women, threaten to "wipe" its enemies from the face of the earth, aid and abett international terrorism, hang homosexuals or conduct rigged elections. Its wonderful how the left can support regimes like this simply due to their hatred of Israel.
I can't believe I agree with you for once.

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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 04:43:48 PM »
I can't understand how a left-wing/liberal person can be pro-Israel.  Don't liberals usually stand for international law and human rights?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 05:20:29 PM »
Quote from: BlueDog Bimble on July 05, 2012, 06:20:15 AM
Israel is a great country, I don't want it to ever become an issue.

You're either ignorant or an HP.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 09:22:30 PM »
Quote from: Vosem on July 05, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: BlueDog Bimble on July 05, 2012, 06:20:15 AM
Israel is a great country, I don't want it to ever become an issue.

I'll echo this, but I'll add the qualifier 'unless it becomes radically different than it is now.'\

You are aware that Israel violates international law, right?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 01:54:19 AM »
Quote from: The Mikado on July 05, 2012, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: Free Palestine on July 05, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
Quote from: Vosem on July 05, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: BlueDog Bimble on July 05, 2012, 06:20:15 AM
Israel is a great country, I don't want it to ever become an issue.

I'll echo this, but I'll add the qualifier 'unless it becomes radically different than it is now.'\

You are aware that Israel violates international law, right?

I've always seen you as a hardcore national sovereignty type.  When did you start caring (or recognizing the legitimacy of) "international law?"

When I stopped believing in national sovereignty and all that other Ron Paulian stuff.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 12:28:23 PM »
Quote from: BlueDog Bumble on July 06, 2012, 09:31:58 AM
(whose foreign policy based upon "human rights" allowed for the coming to power of Ayatollah Khomenei, Robert Mugabe and the Sandinistas).

I don't know about the others, but I think it was previous presidents' foreign policies that led to Ayatollah Khomenei.
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