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« on: July 05, 2012, 12:44:26 AM »
I strongly support this bill.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 05:11:02 PM »
Quote from: Redalgo on July 06, 2012, 05:08:22 PM
Is it possible for a service-person to get an OTH discharge for actions of theirs morally justifiable within the bounds of reason?

Would you provide an example?  I don't think a service member would be discharged if their actions were morally sound.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 06:32:54 PM »
Interesting points, Redalgo.

Clarence, would we presume that discharged soldiers will have the opportunity to appeal to a court so as to protect their benefits?  Ideally, the government should be able to review these things by a case-by-case scenario in case the ends justify the means or if someone is wrongly discharged for something.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 07:37:38 PM »
Wait, is this bill getting tabled if Clarence is away for the next week?
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 09:11:52 PM »
Quote from: IDS Legislator SJoyceFla on July 06, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: Senator Scott on July 06, 2012, 06:32:54 PM
Interesting points, Redalgo.

Clarence, would we presume that discharged soldiers will have the opportunity to appeal to a court so as to protect their benefits?  Ideally, the government should be able to review these things by a case-by-case scenario in case the ends justify the means or if someone is wrongly discharged for something.

Those slated to receive an OTH discharge are guaranteed (by the Uniform Code of Military Justice) the right to appeal to an administrative discharge board, which is similar to a court-martial but is not done publicly, if that takes care of it.

I think that ought to suffice.  What do you think, Redalgo?
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2012, 02:22:45 PM »
Abstain.

I support the bill's intentions, but as Redalgo said, Clarence's input would have been helpful.  Perhaps this can be reintroduced.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 11:16:54 PM »
Changing my vote to Aye.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2012, 02:08:56 PM »
Aye.
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