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WhyteRain
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« on: July 11, 2012, 06:20:40 PM »

Is this really surprising? He deserves props for even bothering to go.

We not going to progress in America so long as politicians feel "obliged" to go and lend their prestige to tribalist organizations.  At least the progressivism of the Teddy Roosevelt variety was strong enough to say, "There's no such thing as a hyphenated American!"
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 06:21:59 PM »

He might have been able to avoid those boos if he'd called Obamacare by its proper name: Romneycare! Wink

He could have avoided those boos if the booers thought he had the capability and will to really hurt them.
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WhyteRain
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 07:05:34 PM »

It's not about feeling obliged. It's about expanding your horizons and recognizing America for the place of diversity that it is. We're not going to make progress by talking to folks like these, you say? So do you really mean to tell me that presenting our message to middle-aged whites is progress enough?

Attitudes like yours are the reason why Republicans will have a tough time winning the presidency in the future.

You misunderstand me.  My opposition to kowtowing to the NAACP because it's a tribalist group is based on the fact that it's a tribalist group, not on the fact that it's a black group.  I would oppose kowtowing to white tribalist groups, too, even if there were any of the "prestige" of the NAACP.
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WhyteRain
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 07:31:42 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2012, 10:46:22 AM by WhyteRain »

I'm white and I am low income. I mean a black athlete makes more money than I do and I say good for them if they can make that type of money. I could care less.


I should make a whole thread out of this, but it would require me going back to all my cultural anthropology books.

hopper, you are an individualist.  Most white people are.  It's due to the Ice Age (12,000 BC to 2,000 BC) that affected Northern Europe but not the "cradles of civilization" which grew up along the 30th latitude North (Nile delta, Mesopotamia, Indus delta, between the Yellow and Yangste rivers).  

The Ice Age made it difficult for Northern Europeans to develop complex extended family and tribal relationships.  Instead, the nuclear family became central.  (It's the reason why polygamy was the norm everywhere else while bi-lateral, one-man-one-woman relationships were the norm in Ice Age-affected regions.)

Without writing a small book, the bottom line is that the 10,000 year Ice Age shaped white people to develop into "individualists".  They then thought that individualism was "the norm" everywhere, when in fact tribalism -- where the group, not the individual, is central -- is the norm for the 90% of the world's inhabitants that are not descended from Ice Age survivors.  Of course, whilte whites make the mistake of thinking that other cultures are just as individualistic as theirs is, the reverse is also true:  the tribalists think, with reason since 90% of Earth's inhabitants are tribalists, that white people are just as tribalist as they are.
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WhyteRain
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 10:58:23 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2012, 11:06:25 AM by WhyteRain »

14.4% unemployment amongst blacks under Obama, yet they remain blindly loyal to the Democrats, who take them for granted.

Obama put forth a job plan that would decrease unemployment. His stimulus plan provided funding to state and local governments, which would prevent layoffs of public employees, which includes disproportionately more African Americans.

Republicans blocked these plans and others, leading to higher unemployment.


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Let's see ... Obama takes power as part of Democratic-controlled Congress in Jan. 2007
Unemployment rate:  4.6%

Obama takes over executive branch in Jan. 2009.
Unemployment rate:  7.8%

GOP takes control of House in Jan. 2011.  
Unemployment rate:  9.1%

Sept. 2011, Obama proposes and Republicans block "jobs bill"
Unemployment rate still 9.0%

By January 2012, Unemployment rate slides to 8.3% -- the biggest and fastest drop -- by far -- during the Obama Presidency.

Now tell us why we shouldn't think you're insane?

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WhyteRain
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 06:53:47 PM »

So now it's a fact that black people should be "welcoming Romney with open arms"?

I guess it depends on what they want, doesn't it?
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WhyteRain
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 06:57:23 PM »

The problem with the Black unemployment rate is that blacks were trained in low-skilled jobs. Once the recession took full effect those jobs were either outsourced or eliminated.

What do you mean by "low-skilled jobs"?
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WhyteRain
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 07:26:27 PM »

Obama takes over executive branch in Jan. 2009.
Unemployment rate:  7.8%

GOP takes control of House in Jan. 2011.  
Unemployment rate:  9.1%

At least you'll never again claim (not here anyway) that "Republicans blocked these [Obama economic] plans and others, leading to higher unemployment."

Just remember in the future to drop one prefix from that sentence -- not "leading to higher unemployment" but rather "leading to higher employment".  


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I have already shown in earlier comments why we should not consider that Obama "inherited" the economy in 2009.  We've become accustomed to using that term only because four of the last five Presidents -- Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush 43 -- came to D.C. as former governors in the hinterlands.  They really did "inherit" what they found in D.C.  Unlike them, Obama didn't need any street map of D.C. when he became President.  "Literally" is an oft-misused term but not here:  

Upon becoming President, Obama literally just moved the contents of his desk from one end of Pennsylvania Avenue to the other.

Moreover, Obama wasn't some obscure backbencher.  He was a big-state U.S. Senator, including two years, 2007-09, as part of the ruling majority in Congress that sets U.S. fiscal policy.  (Bush can be faulted for "making a bad bargain" in trading funding for his Surge that led to his second fabulous victory in Iraq in exchange for giving Obama and his friends a completely free hand with the budget of the U.S.)  

In Oct. 1, 2007, the first of the Democratic budgets became law; nine days later the stock market began its long march to Obamaland (it probably took eight days for investors to read the budget).  Inspired by the anti-Reaganesqe "Demandside Economics" that held that prosperity would "trickle up" if the government would just take lots of money from the middle classes and dump it on the poor, that first budget tripled the federal deficit, which had been slowly declining, in one year, from 1.1% of GNP to 3.2% of GNP.  The unemployment rate on that date?  4.7%  (By the end of the first Democratic budget in 13 years, the unemployment rate was 6.5%; after one more such budget, it was 10.0%.)

I could, and have in the past, go into greater depth about the horrors wrought on the economy by all the economics Obama learned in college and law school, but my father used to say "A word to the wise always suffices."
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WhyteRain
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 07:41:35 PM »

The problem with the Black unemployment rate is that blacks were trained in low-skilled jobs. Once the recession took full effect those jobs were either outsourced or eliminated.

What do you mean by "low-skilled jobs"?
Probably fast food, retail or factory type of labor.

The fast food restaurants have done great in the Bush-Obama Economy as fewer and fewer people can afford decent restaurants.

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In fact, all of retail seems to be one of the *cough* bright spots for employment:

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