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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« on: July 20, 2012, 11:04:55 AM »

You know what America needs... some platitudes about how we're all hurting, followed by the NRA becoming ultra-defensive, a bunch of dick's saying "Guns don't kill people, people do," a proposal by a big city, minority Democrat to restrict the number of bazookas that a citizen can own to 10, and absolutely, positively, no action on guns. That'll do the trick!
I think your post may be one of the lowest I have ever seen here. Don't politicize this.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 02:18:30 PM »
« Edited: July 20, 2012, 02:26:36 PM by ChairmanSanchez »


This kind of sentiment is the kind of the thing that could easily go in the things that are f'd up about the US thread. In any other (supposedly) civilized country in the world a tragedy like this might actually lead people to reexamine their bizarre gun laws - or lack thereof. When a maniac massacred sixteen people in Dunblane in 1996, there was a near-unanimous consensus that the UK needed to tighten its gun control - and they did, with universal public support.

Only in America is the reaction to things like this a horrified panic at the very idea that there might have to be the slightest scrap of extra regulation on guns, because, lest we forget, it's a God-given right to allow lunatics to own the kind of tools that let them murder people with wild abandon.

I can't believe you have the gall to accuse people of "politicizing" this - as if this doesn't inherently have political ramifications and, more to the point, as if your very post wasn't a sleazy and political attack on those of us who think the sheer amount of violent firearms massacres in the United States might - just might - warrant a re-examination of the law.

The same goes for Sanchez and Sanders - spare us the phony outrage. Please. The idea that this incident can be shrugged off as "huh, it was just some nut, what you gonna do?" as if it's merely a sad but predictable and even acceptable event in a healthy society. This isn't normal.

Oakvale, many of them (not necessarily dead0) know that if we discuss these kinds of issues then we'll come to conclusions that they don't like. Their best defense is to stop the discussion from happening, period.
My issue is with the immediate "ITZ THE GUNZ PPLZ FAULT" response. We can debate this issue...tomorrow, or in the coming days. I look forward to hearing your responses on the issue. I look forward to the debate.

You know, I could have made the point that if someone else in the movie theater had a gun, maybe casualties would have been lower. Or, they could have been higher...I don't know, but I look forward to hearing your opinions on it. This forum is not only a place where I go to debate, it is also a place where I learn. My views have been changed here before.

It is too early to tell the motive. It is too early for Louie Gohmert to be making idiotic statements. It is too early for Alex Wagner to be demanding the repeal of the 2nd amendment. It is too early for Alex Jones to be calling this a "inside job".

You don't immediately throw blame around during an ongoing tragedy. You do in the aftermath. Just the other day, Iran was blamed for the barbaric boming in Bulgaria. But did they do it? Do we really know? Was it really Hezbollah? Or could it be an Al Qaida attack? Immediately the issue became Iran, and a hysteria about it almost started.

I think it is simply too early to be starting a major political debate that will dominate headlines in the coming weeks. My outrage is not "feigned".
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