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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: February 01, 2005, 05:48:33 am »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4225211.stm

Very interesting... if this goes through we are talking the creation of the most powerful Union for years :-)
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 06:13:45 pm »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4225211.stm

Very interesting... if this goes through we are talking the creation of the most powerful Union for years :-)

been checking in periodically to see if any of the tories would unclinch their butt-cheeks long enough to respond.  no takers yet.  Notice that the London Stock Exchange closed a bit higher this afternoon, before this short piece hit the wires:  The FTSE 100-share index closed up 53.9 points, or 1.1 percent, at 4,906.2.  (we'll look at it again tomorrow after this story has circulated a bit)
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2005, 03:22:21 am »

Update: it's possible that the two other big unions (Unison, GMB) might merge as well.
There's also an outside chance of all four merging.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 08:35:20 am »

What are they gonna call the result?
IWW?
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 01:41:55 pm »

Amicus and the TGWU have made it official: merger talks have just begun.
They've invited the GMB to join the talks, but the GMB's Executive will probably stop them from joining in (even though Curran wants to).
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 01:54:45 pm »

There ought to be laws against monopolies in the Union movement just as there are laws against monopolies in fields of business. All it does is give one Union disproportionate power to f with the market and gives them the potential to bring the country to its knees over relative inconsequentials.

Unions shouldn't be about monopolising and striking, they should be about securing fair conditions (and a legal safety net) for their workers and also assisting the management to run the business concerned efficiently.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 02:13:55 pm »

There ought to be laws against monopolies in the Union movement just as there are laws against monopolies in fields of business. All it does is give one Union disproportionate power to f with the market and gives them the potential to bring the country to its knees over relative inconsequentials.

Unions shouldn't be about monopolising and striking, they should be about securing fair conditions (and a legal safety net) for their workers and also assisting the management to run the business concerned efficiently.

Thing is most large Unions were created by mergers (case in point is Amicus, which was a merger of the AEEU and the MSF. Both of those were created by mergers themselves) and as most U.K Unions are  vertical/industrial the negative effects of big mergers aren't as big a problem... if the same thing happend with craft unions, there'd be trouble.

Besides the most militant unions in the U.K have tended to be smaller ones (FBU, RMT, ASLEF etc) while both Simpson and Woodley (who were both painted by the media as hard left ultra militant nutters who'd strike over paperclips, when they were first elected) have behaved quite well (I'm actually slightly suprised at Woodley's moderation though. Maybe because he's associated with Longbridge).
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2005, 11:29:33 am »

I like it best when unions are loosely associated with political camps but straddle all industries, as in France and Italy.
One odd side effect is that unions can attempt to grow at the expense of other unions by calling a strike.
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