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« on: July 22, 2012, 01:08:06 PM »
« edited: August 06, 2012, 03:26:29 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 01:09:28 PM »

TJ you have 24 hours as you know to advocate for this. If I forget to mention this on a bill, assume it applies because it certainly will, most likely. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 08:05:57 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 08:07:28 AM »

I am very reluctant to embrace this. In the RL I can assure you that it would only get passed over my dead body. Tongue


Only the perspective of this as a game and the inherent differences in that is making me somewhat open to being convinced here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 09:45:14 AM »

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My openness to being convinced took a big hit with Ebowed's post, just so the proponents of this know where I am right now. Wink If someone is suppose to sell me on this they aren't doing very well. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 11:04:12 AM »

I am not worried about checks on the power of the court, so much as preservation of the court as check on the legislative and executive branches and not becoming that of a rubber stamp to legislative or executive fiat.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2012, 08:04:07 AM »

The amendment has passed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2012, 06:42:25 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 11:14:42 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 03:59:53 PM »

Yet another attempt by some of the right-wingers to politicize the court.  Couldn't you fellows have the decency to wait a bit before yet another of these transparent attempts?

One can only hope there are three Senators who respect the constitution, as there were last time round.

Don't you mean four? It takes atleast four to ensure failure. And there were five no votes on the last one if memory serves me.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 04:09:46 PM »

One can only hope there are three Senators who respect the constitution, as there were last time round.

Don't you mean four? It takes atleast four to ensure failure. And there were five no votes on the last one if memory serves me.

No, a constitutional amendment requires a two-thirds margin of victory, which is 66%.  So seven, not six.

If three people vote no, that leaves seven to potentially vote aye which is 70% in favor of passage. If four votes no that precludes passage because the best the amendment can get is 60%.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 03:22:08 PM »

Justice Antonin Scalia was giving an interview on FNS today and said in reference to the President's criticism of the Citizen's United case and the pressuring in the speech prior to the Health care ruling, after much pushing from Chris Wallace of course, "What can he do to me, I have lifetime tenure? The very reason we do is because the court sometimes has to deny the elected majority it's desires because they are unconstitutional and thus we are shielded from the whims of politics"

Slight paraphrasing in the quote of course because I don't have a transcript of it in front of me, but you get the idea.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »

The amendments have passed.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2012, 11:28:00 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2012, 09:45:49 AM »

The amendment has passed.

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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2012, 12:44:13 PM »

I am non-patiently waiting here.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2012, 10:28:22 AM »

Senators a final vote is now open here so please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 09:46:19 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2012, 01:54:49 PM »

This has enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2012, 03:23:57 PM »
« Edited: August 06, 2012, 03:25:55 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

Vote on final passageo f the Judicial Term Length Amendment:

Aye (4): Clarence, Redalgo, Scott and TJ in Cleve
Nay (5): AndrewPA, Ben, NC Yankee, sbane, and Seatown
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Wormyguy

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