NBC-WAll Street Journal: Obama 49 Romney 43

[Minnesota Mike]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/12768_July_Poll.pdf

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/24/12933159-nbcwsj-poll-negative-campaign-takes-toll-on-candidates-obama-up-six-points
Obama doubles his lead over romney from last month.
Romney leads on economy, but Obama leads on everything else. Candidate unfavorables at all time highs in poll. Seems about right.

[Yank2133]

Lmao!

Mitt is leading when it comes to the economy, but he is so unlikeable that it is rather pointless.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

An NBC poll? That sounds trustworthy!

[krazen1211]

Hey, let's stack our poll with Democrats to show Obama in the lead! That's never been done before.

[Minnesota Mike]

An NBC poll? That sounds trustworthy!

I suppose the Wall Street Journal is to Liberal for you to.

[MorningInAmerica]

Hey, let's stack our poll with Democrats to show Obama in the lead! That's never been done before.

46% Democrat, 35% Republican to be exactly. D+11? Seriously?

[RogueBeaver]

Hey, let's stack our poll with Democrats to show Obama in the lead! That's never been done before.

46% Democrat, 35% Republican to be exactly. D+11? Seriously?

Junk poll, and I'm not being sarcastic. What sample did they use? 1964? 1936?

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

if romney was leading like this everyone would be jumping up and down lol.

[RogueBeaver]

if romney was leading like this everyone would be jumping up and down lol.

Not if the poll was R+11, because we'd be deluding ourselves.

[DrScholl]

Again, just because Romney isn't leading, does not mean the poll is wrong. If Romney is leading on the economy issue, it's hard to see the sample effecting the accuracy of the poll.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I'll bet my bottom dollar RealClearPolitics doesn't use this poll in its averages.

[Keystone Phil]

Again, just because Romney isn't leading, does not mean the poll is wrong.

Yeah, that's true. But that's not the reason here. It's that the sample is D+11 so thanks for the call.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Yeah, that's true. But that's not the reason here. It's that the sample is D+11 so thanks for the call.

This is not 2002. The Democrats' margin of support is wider than it used to be.

[DrScholl]

Yeah, that's true. But that's not the reason here. It's that the sample is D+11 so thanks for the call.

Again, Romney leads on the question of the economy, if the sample was effecting the numbers so much, wouldn't Obama do better on that question? Whatever you want to believe though.

[MorningInAmerica]

Mark Murray of NBC News says this about his station's poll:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Mark Murray of NBC News says this about his station's poll:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Translation: Republicans lose when people actually VOTE.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Good news!

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The Wall Street Journal is a well-known leftist hack organization, amirite?

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

The toplines don't seem hugely unreasonable (beyond the generally tendentious nature of polling in this whole cycle) but the partisan breakdown is just bizarre. This might be one of those polls where just being content with comparing it to previous incarnations of itself is the best course of action.

[MorningInAmerica]

I'll bet my bottom dollar RealClearPolitics doesn't use this poll in its averages.

 You were saying?

[Supersonic]

If the sample is D+11, and Romney leads on the economy, that's a bit embarrassing for the President.

Otherwise, rubbish poll. Obama is leading by around 2 points at the moment I'd say.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

If the sample is D+11, and Romney leads on the economy, that's a bit embarrassing for the President.

Romney leads on the economy but Obama leads on economic messaging. Apparently. They're thin-slicing the nature of the questions into near-meaninglessness.

You must be logged in to read this quote.

As I said in the other thread about this poll, the best course of action is probably to compare it to previous incarnations of itself, not necessarily to polls from other sources or perceptions of objective reality.

[argentarius]

This is an awful, awful poll. The sample must be a one in a million.

[krazen1211]

Yeah, that's true. But that's not the reason here. It's that the sample is D+11 so thanks for the call.

Again, Romney leads on the question of the economy, if the sample was effecting the numbers so much, wouldn't Obama do better on that question? Whatever you want to believe though.

With this economy, no.