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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: July 29, 2012, 06:45:52 PM »

The fact that this DELIBERATE and willful misinterpretation has been the focal point of the Romney campaign for the last week shows just how desperate they are.

You know damn well what the president was saying.
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 08:58:17 PM »

The fact that this DELIBERATE and willful misinterpretation has been the focal point of the Romney campaign for the last week shows just how desperate they are.

You know damn well what the president was saying.

Ya wanna talk desperate?  I'll tell ya what's desperate.  Bain and taxes are desperate.  The reason, and the ONLY reason for harping on Bain and taxes is an attempt by Obama and his truth twisters to distract attention away from the very obvious fact that Obama is completely in over his head in dealing with the disastrous state of the U.S. economy.  

Ya wanna talk bout the the last week.  How bout we talk bout the last three months with the Bain and taxes smoke screen nonsense.    

The Bain record IS what Romney points to as his justification for running, (since we can't talk about MA) so yes, that is fair game. As for the tax thing, Romney made that far worse for himself than anything the Obama campaign has done. If Bain made money by shifting jobs offshore? How is that not a reasonable issue to raise, it's not like Romney has ever denied that occured, and if filling out SEC forms (legal documents btw) is just a matter of technicality, it doesn't say a lot... and that is fair game.

The "you didn't build it" furore has NO baring on the reality of the context. Romney is DELIBERATELY blurring the context to get back on the flawed message that Obama is anti-business.

One is a legitimate line of questioning, albeit one that could have been settled by Romney having a competent campaign staff behind him, the other is a deliberate attempt to misquote and misinterpret.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 10:50:14 PM »

Both John King and David Gergen have stated that the Democrats have in fact not told the truth about the length of time Romney spent at Bain.

Nobody has any proof whatsoever of any wrongdoing by Romney with his taxes.  It wouldn't matter in the least what tax records showed.  They would show absolutely nothing wrong, however, Obama and his henchmen would take all this data and find something that they could twist and turn in order to confuse people about Romney's taxes.

Bottom line, smoke screen.

Underlined bottom line, smoke screen because Obama really has no clue what to do about the economy.

I think you'd have found a lot of people who, if Romney released his tax returns and assuming there was nothing illegal (which I doubt there is) or potentially unethical or irregular, would say it's time to let it go.

That's the big problem, which shows how politically tone-deaf and glass jawed his campaign is. They could have been the ones to control the cycle to addressing issues head on, without waffling and stupid lines about 'retroactive retirement'. But instead, Obama is able to suggest that Romney is breaking a precedent set by his own father because of something he doesn't want people to see.

The capacity of whatever tax/Bain attacks to impact on Romney is down his own campaign's incompetence.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 11:07:47 PM »

A bit off topic, but I just love how peoples' political views are completely hijacking their perception of the economy. So some of you conservatives call the economy "disastrous" or "a total wreck." Ok, you definitely have evidence to support that, but would you be saying the same thing if a Republican was in office, or are you just spouting this off because it's "Obama's economy"?

For god's sake, we're adding jobs every month. Does anybody remember how many we were losing in 2008-2009?

I think people are blinkered to how deep and wide the effects of the GFC were, the US lost 20% of it's total net worth in a period of less than two years. The utterly simplistic view of many from both parties has set up the current state of affairs. The effects of the GFC reflect how severe a crisis it was and what it cost people but Romney's promises of quick fixes and re-establishing the pre-2009 financial arrangements are a recipe for disaster.

It doesn't matter what things were like in 08-09, all that matters is removing Obama and putting in place someone who wants to continue the economic framework that led to the GFC in the first place.
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