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geesthacht82
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« on: July 30, 2012, 04:31:37 PM »

That makes no sense. It's like a Jew voting for the NSDAP.
McCain garnered 27% of the LGBT vote in 2008, that's even an increase from 19% support for President Bush four years before.
And how many among those voters were female?
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 04:37:54 PM »

I doubt those numbers will continue, what with full-on marriage equality from the Democrats.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 05:04:45 PM »

Self loathing. Not to single them out, of course. American voters are a self-loathing bunch in general.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 05:55:26 PM »

The 2008 swing (according to exit polling) is not really something I've ever understood, and I've tried to pin point the cause, but to no avail. I know it sounds like a cop out, but I really think it was just bad sampling/crappy exit polling.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 05:57:51 PM »

Patriotism.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 06:00:30 PM »

Why did so many blacks vote for Wilson?
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 06:19:21 PM »

My neighbors back in Illinois were two gay Republicans. These are generally the sort of people who really couldn't care less whether the government recognizes their marriage or not, but like Republican economic policy. Honestly, why more in 2008 than 2004 I don't know, but even if Democrats go full-on marriage equality I doubt it'll help them much, as these are the exact sort of voters that don't really care.

Self loathing. Not to single them out, of course. American voters are a self-loathing bunch in general.

You sound like opebo.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2012, 06:28:17 PM »

I'm no innovator, Vosem.  Anything I post is obvious common knowledge.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 06:33:59 PM »

You're wrong, Vosem. Even homocons want marriage. Two people who used to be your neighbours does not represent an entire voting block.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 06:42:27 PM »


I'm sorry, are you implying that gay Democratic voters aren't patriotic?
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2012, 06:44:17 PM »

I'm no innovator, Vosem.  Anything I post is obvious common knowledge.

Your posts, and I say this in the nicest way possible, are insane conspiracy theory bulls**t. But they're fun to read.

You're wrong, Vosem. Even homocons want marriage. Two people who used to be your neighbours does not represent an entire voting block.

Of course they want marriage, but they may view other issues (such as, in that case, tax policy) as being more significant. How else do you explain 27% of gays voting Republican?
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2012, 06:45:31 PM »

Who's going to be the first to point out the obvious problem with exit poll data regarding this particular demographic?
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2012, 06:51:16 PM »

Here's a strange hypothesis: bisexuals who don't fully identify with the gay community and don't have as much of an incentive to be passionate about gay rights because they're already with straight partners.

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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2012, 06:52:09 PM »

Here's a strange hypothesis: bisexuals who don't fully identify with the gay community and don't have as much of an incentive to be passionate about gay rights because they're already with straight partners.

Are such people going to claim to be gay to a pollster?
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2012, 06:53:40 PM »


I'm sorry, are you implying that gay Democratic voters aren't patriotic?

Poster geesthacht82 proposed that a certain subset should not vote for a political party based on the peculiar belief that such 'makes no sense'.

Regardless of one's opinions on the particular happenstance here, I would hope you would agree in principle that there are some voters who choose their political party based on their belief of the best interest of the nation and not the alleged best interest of a certain subset of that nation.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 06:54:13 PM »

Humans are complex. Homos come in all shapes and colors.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 06:55:42 PM »


Chelsea fans excepted, of course.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 06:56:23 PM »

Self loathing. Not to single them out, of course. American voters are a self-loathing bunch in general.

You sound like opebo.

A broken watch, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 07:01:41 PM »

Here's a strange hypothesis: bisexuals who don't fully identify with the gay community and don't have as much of an incentive to be passionate about gay rights because they're already with straight partners.

Are such people going to claim to be gay to a pollster?

I'm inclined to be believe that a non-negligible amount of them would.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 07:04:48 PM »

Uh oh, someone mentioned the b word. But I've not, ever, even those with partners of the opposite sex, encountered a bisexual who is against or not passionate about LGBT rights.
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2012, 07:07:28 PM »

Uh oh, someone mentioned the b word. But I've not, ever, even those with partners of the opposite sex, encountered a bisexual who is against or not passionate about LGBT rights.

Do you think there's the possibility that they're less invested in it though?
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2012, 07:10:51 PM »


I'm sorry, are you implying that gay Democratic voters aren't patriotic?

Poster geesthacht82 proposed that a certain subset should not vote for a political party based on the peculiar belief that such 'makes no sense'.

Regardless of one's opinions on the particular happenstance here, I would hope you would agree in principle that there are some voters who choose their political party based on their belief of the best interest of the nation and not the alleged best interest of a certain subset of that nation.

Certainly, and I'm actually pleasantly surprised that you're ascribing patriotism to even some gays, but...
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2012, 07:11:18 PM »

Uh oh, someone mentioned the b word. But I've not, ever, even those with partners of the opposite sex, encountered a bisexual who is against or not passionate about LGBT rights.

Do you think there's the possibility that they're less invested in it though?

I guess, but thinking they're less invested because they have an opposite sex partner is actually rather silly, and a reason why a lot of gay people don't care for bisexuals in the first place. I'll echo a bit of what Vosem said and hypothesize that, if they don't care, it's not so much because of their sexuality than their own personal choice, I suppose?
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 07:14:31 PM »

Hmm, probably because:

1) They're very comfortable economically, so, rich. Voting GOP out of self (economic) interest. Plus being well off means you don't need to worry about marriage/federal benefits.

2) They live in parts of the US where the state GOP is more moderate or less dominated by social conservative interests, basically the Pacific Coasts, Northeastern states etc.

3) They don't identify with the communitarian aspects of the LGBT community. So, in essence, they don't make being gay/bi/lesbian/what-not, a big part of their life and don't care (probably too strong a word) for other LGBT people per-se. Hard to explain.
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 07:22:16 PM »

McCain made less of an issue out of gay marriage than Bush did, so I imagine that gays polarized from Bush came back into the fold when it appeared McCain was more focused on economic rather than social issues.

It will be interesting to see if gays swing back toward Obama this year, after DADT, refusing to defend DOMA, and the Dems adding a gay marriage plank.
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