Do you think Obama believes in Socialism / Do you believe in Socialism?

[milhouse24]

Obama has created big government programs, policies, and oversight committees.  More recently, he has taken a more confrontational tone towards businesses, corporations, and capitalism with his "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that"

In addition, small business owners don't want to pay the new taxes/penalties for mandatory employee health care. 

But many liberals and 99% want to change capitalism and corporations, and prefer more government oversight than Obama has promised.  Many liberals support socialist programs and policies (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Knowing Obama's actions in the past 4 years, and his public statements, do you think Obama believes in Socialism?  Do you support socialism?

[milhouse24]

Everybody believes in socialism to an extent, seeing as most people don't mind government funding roads, police and fire. If none of those things were socialized, people would want for them to be socialized due to paying high fees to companies for those services.

That's oversimplifying socialism.  There are some basic services like roads and police that citizens are willing to pay the government to do, or pay some private corporation to do, because it makes their lives easier and better and safer. 

The question is what is Big Government, and how many services and taxes can the Government force citizens to pay for with the excuse of "basic human requirement."  Then there is also individual choice of participating in government programs and personal freedom.   

Socialism can also refer to Government Over-spending.  For example, the Bush Government spent a lot of money, resources, and manpower for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and a vast majority of Americans disagreed with that Big Government policy, so they voted for Obama in 2008. 

[milhouse24]

Socialism is a meme.

Its certainly a right wing attack on Obama.  But its also embraced by the extreme Liberals everywhere, on this forum, and of the 99%.  

socialism may be a pejorative or it may be seen as a good thing.  

THere are certainly many liberals that want Obama to be more socialist in his policies and enforcement.  

For instance, Universal Health Care is labeled as a socialist policy by both Liberals who strongly believe in it, and by conservatives who want it eliminated.  

[milhouse24]

Do you think Romney believes in Nazism/Do you believe in Nazism?

Grow up.

It doesn't matter what you think or feel, but the media and the right wing media discusses the Obama/Socialism issue. 

You're just upset because "Socialism" is seen as a perjorative just like being labeled a "Liberal" is seen negatively. 

Many Liberals embrace socialism, and actually prefer Obama to be more Socialist. 

You can stick your head in the sand, and call out names, but it doesn't stop the media from discussing whether Obama is a socialist or the merits of Socialism. 

You are clearly reacting in an immature emotional way, rather than seeing the reality of Obama's current political situation as it is viewed by both liberals and conservatives. 

[milhouse24]

But it was George W. Bush who nationalized the banking and automotive sectors. Who's the socialist now?

Yeah, and Bush is one of the most unpopular presidents precisely because he ventured into Socialist policies of bailouts, and not to mention the Deficit spending Military Wars. 

Bottom line, huge government spending programs are unpopular for Obama, Bush, etc.

[milhouse24]

Do you think Romney believes in Nazism/Do you believe in Nazism?

Grow up.

It doesn't matter what you think or feel, but the media and the right wing media discusses the Obama/Socialism issue.  

You're just upset because "Socialism" is seen as a perjorative just like being labeled a "Liberal" is seen negatively.  

Many Liberals embrace socialism, and actually prefer Obama to be more Socialist.  

You can stick your head in the sand, and call out names, but it doesn't stop the media from discussing whether Obama is a socialist or the merits of Socialism.  

You are clearly reacting in an immature emotional way, rather than seeing the reality of Obama's current political situation as it is viewed by both liberals and conservatives.  

Ahaha.  Oh really, buddy?  I'm the one calling names?  I'm not the one who's asking loaded, counterproductive questions with the sole intention of trolling.  Words themselves are not inherently bad, but it is society and the media that make them perceived to be a certain way.  The word 'liberal' is simply not universally accepted as a negative term in the way that 'socialist' is, in spite of how you might like it to be.  Either you obviously have no concept of socialism as an ideology or you are just learning what it is, because otherwise you would not have opened a thread with such a fatuous, vague, blatantly hackish question like this.

I suggest you do your own homework and learn these terms instead of relying on Fox News for your political vocabulary.

Newsflash, France just voted for a Socialist president.  This may surprise you, but not everyone believes being labeled a Socialist is a negative thing.  You're living in the past with the commies. 

[milhouse24]

But it was George W. Bush who nationalized the banking and automotive sectors. Who's the socialist now?

Yeah, and Bush is one of the most unpopular presidents precisely because he ventured into Socialist policies of bailouts, and not to mention the Deficit spending Military Wars. 

Bottom line, huge government spending programs are unpopular for Obama, Bush, etc.

Ummmm, no. People are hypocrites. People like to take, take, take from government, but they don't like to pay for it...

Exactly... it's like the mentality... "I get benefits, but I deserve them... those people get entitlements and don't"

If those programs are socialist, then a HELL of a lot of Americans of all political stripes are socialists.

Americans complain more about Activist Government than inactive governments.  When they see Big Government spending lots of taxpayer dollars on programs they don't agree with, such as war, or other things, then the public rises up. 

Whether its facism or socialism or anything that resembles greater Government involvement in the daily lives of citizens, people become skeptical.  Basically, anything resemebling authoritarianism, rather than personal freedom.