Should Clinton be giving his speech at the Republican convention?

[AmericanNation]

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/01/mr-president-youre-no-bill-clinton/

...If he was honest?
 

[Lief 🗽]

No.

[mondale84]

LOL...you are the biggest troll on this forum

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Hm.  Well, I don't see how it would be plausible for President Clinton to speak at the Republican Convention just days before he delivers the speech to formally place Obama's name into the Democratic nomination.  This could hurt either one or both parties, or even his own credibility, depending on the public reception.

Yes, I know you're just playing dumb.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

It's true: Obama is no Clinton. Obama is BETTER!

Clinton is the man who gave a speech titled "The Era Of Big Government Is Over" yet used the speech to praise school uniforms. He thought school uniforms were "small government."

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

It's saddening that Democrats so admire the most right-wing president of the last 50 years as if he were some sort of liberal icon.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

most right-wing president of the last 50 years

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

It's saddening that Democrats so admire the most right-wing president of the last 50 years as if he were some sort of liberal icon.

Really, Snowy? You're better than that.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Clinton's being one of the more left-wing presidents of the past fifty years is more of an indictment of most of the rest of them, not something that he should be especially proud of, but Snowstalker's estimation is still ridiculous.

[DrScholl]

Considering that Republicans hated him and tried to get him thrown out of office, no. Besides, Clinton isn't anything like Republicans on most issues.

[AmericanNation]

Considering that Republicans hated him and tried to get him thrown out of office, no. Besides, Clinton isn't anything like Republicans on most issues.

neither is Lieberman, but the dems have left both men in many ways

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

To be fair, I don't agree with everything Clinton did when he was in office, but to say he's right-wing is a bit out there..

[ajb]

Only if the ghost of Ronald Reagan gets to speak at the Democratic convention. His party has kind of left him, after all.

[AmericanNation]

Only if the ghost of Ronald Reagan gets to speak at the Democratic convention. His party has kind of left him, after all.

Riiiighhhht. 
 
So the Democrats have left Clinton on...
benefits of free trade and free markets
the size and scope of government (era of big government is over)
central reason for entrepreneurial success
private equity qualification threshold to be president
inequality increase = entire nation growing richer
dem presidents should recalibrate goals when faced with a newly invigorated conservative Congress (with a historic mandate)
welfare reform
global growth policies
expansion of scary things such as “outsourcing,” “offshoring,” and “globalism” coincides with the economy booming and expanding by 50 percent in real terms.
Balanced budgets
financial regulation
capital gains taxes

Republicans have left Reagan on...
wearing cowboy hats?
Referencing movie quotes from the 1940's?

[Mechaman]

Not at all.  Considering that the Democratic Party has essentially become the Bill Clinton Party.

[ajb]

Only if the ghost of Ronald Reagan gets to speak at the Democratic convention. His party has kind of left him, after all.

Riiiighhhht. 
 
So the Democrats have left Clinton on...
benefits of free trade and free markets
the size and scope of government (era of big government is over)
central reason for entrepreneurial success
private equity qualification threshold to be president
inequality increase = entire nation growing richer
dem presidents should recalibrate goals when faced with a newly invigorated conservative Congress (with a historic mandate)
welfare reform
global growth policies
expansion of scary things such as “outsourcing,” “offshoring,” and “globalism” coincides with the economy booming and expanding by 50 percent in real terms.
Balanced budgets
financial regulation
capital gains taxes

Republicans have left Reagan on...
wearing cowboy hats?
Referencing movie quotes from the 1940's?

Well, for starters the Republicans have left Reagan on being grown-up enough to raise taxes when necessary. Also on keeping the lines of conversation open with hostile regimes.

[AmericanNation]

Well, for starters the Republicans have left Reagan on being grown-up enough to raise taxes when necessary. Also on keeping the lines of conversation open with hostile regimes.

1) Reagan wasn't in favor of raising taxes, that was negotiated in a deal with dems. 
2) modern Republicans did/would have lines of communication with hostile regimes.  Some regimes like Iran and North Korea are exceptions for obvious reasons, as evidenced by the Obama administrations pathetic attempts to unilaterally open up dialogue.   

[ajb]

We've seen that today's Republicans would rather let the country default than raise taxes in a deal with Democrats, even though taxes are lower now. And I find it curious that Republicans like to act as if Iran is a greater threat than the Soviet Union, and as if Iran's behavior is more outside acceptable norms than was Soviet behavior.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Oh, I was trolling, but Clinton isn't worthy of the admiration he gets at all.

[DrScholl]

neither is Lieberman, but the dems have left both men in many ways

Lieberman broke with the party mostly over the war, which was not something the party should have compromised on ever. The party is still very close to what Clinton stood for in terms. Again, why would Clinton want to be a Republican when they hated him (still do for the most part) and tried to get him out of office?

[AmericanNation]

We've seen that today's Republicans would rather let the country default than raise taxes in a deal with Democrats, even though taxes are lower now. And I find it curious that Republicans like to act as if Iran is a greater threat than the Soviet Union, and as if Iran's behavior is more outside acceptable norms than was Soviet behavior.

We've seen that democrats would rather let the country default rather than cut spending to offset debt limit increases.  Republicans completely have the high ground on that issue.  Nice try :-)


MAD isn't something the Iranians operate under, so yea they ARE.IN.FACT. different.  They could act more like the Russians pretty easily, but wishful thinking isn't reality like most leftists pretend.  Also, Letting a regional power with expansionist aspirations, gain nuclear weapons is pretty unacceptable.  I'm a geopolitical centrist on the Iranian issue.            

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

The Supreme Leader is less crazy than the President, you know, not more.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

We've seen that today's Republicans would rather let the country default than raise taxes in a deal with Democrats, even though taxes are lower now. And I find it curious that Republicans like to act as if Iran is a greater threat than the Soviet Union, and as if Iran's behavior is more outside acceptable norms than was Soviet behavior.

We've seen that democrats would rather let the country default rather than cut spending to offset debt limit increases.  Republicans completely have the high ground on that issue.  Nice try :-)


MAD isn't something the Iranians operate under, so yea they ARE.IN.FACT. different.  They could act more like the Russians pretty easily, but wishful thinking isn't reality like most leftists pretend.  Also, Letting a regional power with expansionist aspirations, gain nuclear weapons is pretty unacceptable.  I'm a geopolitical centrist on the Iranian issue.            

Do you reside in any degree of reality... seriously if this is the quality of GOP posting to expect for the next 3 months, I'm out.

[mondale84]

We've seen that today's Republicans would rather let the country default than raise taxes in a deal with Democrats, even though taxes are lower now. And I find it curious that Republicans like to act as if Iran is a greater threat than the Soviet Union, and as if Iran's behavior is more outside acceptable norms than was Soviet behavior.

We've seen that democrats would rather let the country default rather than cut spending to offset debt limit increases.  Republicans completely have the high ground on that issue.  Nice try :-)


MAD isn't something the Iranians operate under, so yea they ARE.IN.FACT. different.  They could act more like the Russians pretty easily, but wishful thinking isn't reality like most leftists pretend.  Also, Letting a regional power with expansionist aspirations, gain nuclear weapons is pretty unacceptable.  I'm a geopolitical centrist on the Iranian issue.            

Do you reside in any degree of reality... seriously if this is the quality of GOP posting to expect for the next 3 months, I'm out.

They're all pretty bad, but he's just an unashamed troll

[Maxwell]

most right-wing president of the last 50 years

Granted amnesty to over 3 million immigrants, traded arms for hostages, raised taxes eleven times, and nearly tripled the federal deficit among other things...

Doesn't sound like a conservative record to me.