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Ben Kenobi
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« on: August 12, 2012, 06:25:36 AM »

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I do.

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You are seriously misinformed by what Catholics believe. There's nothing wrong with her attending your baptism, and likewise, for funerals, etc. My father's funeral was in the Episcopalian church - and I was heavily involved in the arrangements.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2012, 06:31:51 AM »

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Mortal sin is mortal sin. Denial of communion requires persistant, manifest expression of grave sin.

1. Dissent from Church teachings.
2. Persistant - ie, the dissent has to be over a certain period of time.
3. Public - ie, the dissent has to be expressed where other people can hear.
4. Grave. It has to be over a matter that would be considered mortal sin. Public endorsement of abortion qualifies.
5. Other interventions have to have failed.

Denial of communion isn't the first step - but if other measures have been tried and haven't worked, then yes, denial of communion is appropriate.

And Phil - all the politicians who claim to be pro-abortion and 'Catholics in good standing' should be denied communion. ESPECIALLY Pelosi. Her dissent goes beyond 'being an irritating nuisance', to 'actively misleading others as to what the Church actually teaches.'
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2012, 02:18:58 PM »

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1, Catholics believe in the Real Presence, many protestants do not. Ergo - it is inappropriate for them to take communion because they do not understand what they are doing.

2, God has made it very clear that Communion should only be taken in a worthy manner. This applies to everyone.

Is His word not good enough for you?
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2012, 02:21:56 PM »

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Well, you never mentioned being baptised as an infant. Yes, you're correct here - that is a problem.

It's not so much that rebaptism is bad it's that it simply isn't necessary. Rebaptism denies the essential truth that there is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins in the Nicaean Creed.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 11:29:21 AM »

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God has sorted it out. He killed someone in Acts who took it in an unworthy manner.

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One, it's 'canon', and not 'cannon'.

Two, yes it does. It reserves communion to the community of believers. You need to go read Acts.

Three, all the books of the bible were written within 60 years of Christ's death on a cross.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 11:32:21 AM »

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As quoted earlier in the thread - yes, it's the literal translation of Scripture. Yes, the bread and wine becomes the body and blood of Christ.

Those who do not believe this should not take communion in the Catholic church.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 10:59:31 AM »

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Yes, I meant the New Testament. Thanks for your correction!
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