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Ben Kenobi
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« on: August 14, 2012, 04:46:12 PM »

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Apparently the Democrat party isn't the party of the disabled.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 07:49:36 AM »

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Last I checked it was Republicans who voted in the Civil Rights act.

What exactly have Democrats ever done for African Americans?
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 07:51:01 AM »

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Given as I am deaf, I think this qualifies as "EPIC FAIL".
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 03:21:35 PM »

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Yawn. It gets tiresome.

What exactly has the democrat party done for the black man? Have they done anything at all?
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 03:33:21 PM »

[qquote]Should it even matter? According to conservative talking points, aren't we supposed to be focused on the greater society at-large, as opposed to specific factions? After all, isn't the opposite at the core of why White America hates the Democratic Party so much? You know, because "we give them everything"? Can't have it both ways. [/quote]

Only if one believes that the Democrats have the best interests of black people in mind. They don't, that's the problem.

Obama's policies have put more black men out of work than at any time since the Great Depression. Would it not be safe to say that the Democrats really don't like black people all that much?

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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 09:37:42 AM »

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Republicans are rayyy ssisss. Hurf durf.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 09:42:42 AM »

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That wasn't the case during the Carter Administration, and it's not the case now. The workforce participation rate for black men is what it was in the 50's. So yes, Obama has reversed all the gains since the civil rights act.

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The demographic that is the worst off is black men. Why, if the democrat policies are designed to assist this particular group, is this the case? My argument is that democrat policies are designed to hurt, not help black people. They are working as intended.

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And that's the point. The democrats see it as racial progress when more black americans are on government assistance. How is this any different from slavery?
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 10:07:42 AM »

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Add the total working in the government offices and you get close to 48, 49 percent of the workforce.

If more people are riding the cart than pulling it, how long are the saps pulling the cart going to bother?

Economic facts aren't partisan. They are just as much facts as gravity or electricity. An administration defies them at their peril.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 10:13:11 AM »
« Edited: August 16, 2012, 10:15:20 AM by Ben Kenobi »

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In the 1950's 90 percent of black children had a father in the home. Now it's about 25 percent.

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Yes. That has been the result over the last 50 years. The average black man today is less likely to have a job, more likely to be in prison, less likely to be raising his children, less likely to have been raised by his father, more likely to be addicted by drugs, less likely to have enough food to eat, more likely to be homeless than his peer in the 1950s.

All things that these programs are designed to mitigate have impoverished the black man today from the black man of 1950.

Is that not sufficient evidence that the policies are worthless? The best way to provide for a black man and his family is three letters. J-O-B.  

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Given how he belongs to the party of slavery it's a rather large gaffe.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2012, 10:35:31 AM »

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This gap was much less in 1950.

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Given that the most likely victim of a black man is another black man, are you arguing that such crimes should be left unprosecuted?

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I said 1950s, not 1860s. If you're going to lie, at least try to make it not so transparent.

The democrats benefit from black people being poorer and more dependent on the government, because that's exactly what their platform is. It's right there in the platform. The republicans benefit when black people get jobs, own houses, raise their families.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 10:53:08 AM »

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If black people vote 95:5 Democrat on average, and wealthier black people vote 80:20 Democrat on average - how have they benefited?
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 10:59:42 AM »

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I stated that the Democrats are the party of slavery. Last I checked the Democrats voted to oppose passage of the Civil Rights bill, and that was the 1960s.

Are you saying that the Democrat party of the 1950s was in favor of racial equality and integration?

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The same party that gave black people the vote, also gave the native americans the vote, gave the asians and all the other minorities the vote. Oddly enough history textbooks never teach this fact.

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Give me a link to their 2012 platform that you regard as authoritative and I'll be happy to cite it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 11:10:30 AM »

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It's 25 million voters.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 11:20:11 AM »

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It's your argument - you want the actual percentages, then feel free to cite actual percentages. As I said, just because the total percentage skews massively democrat indicates nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 11:40:08 AM »
« Edited: August 16, 2012, 11:51:08 AM by Ben Kenobi »

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The claim was:

Wealthy Black Americans and poor Black Americans both skew massively democrat. Ergo, the Republican party cannot get any benefit from either.

My argument:

1. Black americans on average vote 95/5 Democrat.
2. A massive democrat skew is anything greater than 2/3rd Democrat.

Ergo - it is possible for the Republican party, despite a massive democrat skew, to benefit significantly.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2012, 01:48:19 PM »

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When the plumber's been working at it for 50 years, and the toilet is still clogged, damn straight I blame the plumber.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2012, 01:58:07 PM »

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So I take it you don't believe in trickle-down economics.
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