Rasmussen Poll of Wisconsin: Romney-Ryan 48%, Obama-Biden 47%

[MorningInAmerica]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/election_2012_wisconsin_president

Romney takes 1 point lead in the wake of the Ryan pick. Obama led 49-46% back in July.

[MorningInAmerica]

Happy with these numbers.. hopefully Rasmussen is right on the top line... it is certainly encouraging though to see how favorably Ryan is viewed in Wisconsin.

...and Romney's favs for that matter. He's at an impressive 54/44%. Ryan's at a very strong 57/36% in Wisconsin (which means more than just Republicans like him up there).

[MorningInAmerica]

This is a troll poll and you guys know it. Scotty is making up numbers to please his FOX audience.

Do you ever contribute anything more than "troll poll" in your posts? I've yet to see it.

[MorningInAmerica]

Republican posters ITT:

Hahaha....as if we don't have enough Obama circle-jerks around this place.

[MorningInAmerica]

This is a troll poll and you guys know it. Scotty is making up numbers to please his FOX audience.

Do you ever contribute anything more than "troll poll" in your posts? I've yet to see it.

I point out the obvious, which you clearly don't see. But anyway, keep believing these "polls" and spewing you Fox talking points, I'm sure it'll bring about Midnight in America.

Anyone ever told you that you have the grammar and wit of a fourth grader? You've GOT to hear that a lot, right?

[MorningInAmerica]

I'm actually one of the smarter and funnier people I know. In fact, I probably rank higher in those areas than 95% of the country.

I think this pretty much speaks for itself.

[MorningInAmerica]

Gotta love the heavy spinning Scotty put on this:

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Problem is he reported in his June poll  Romney 47% Obama 44%.  Now maybe with a different rounding, that 47% is 46%, but that doesn't change the fact that he had Romney with a 3 point margin two months ago, and only a 1 point margin now.

Does Ryan help Romney here? Of course he does, but you can't prove it with Scotty's numbers.

Not sure I see what part of that is spinning on "Scotty's" part, much less "heavy spinning." He doesn't say that "this is the Republican's largest MARGIN of support yet in the Bader State. He says "this is the Republican's largest LEVEL of support..." And that would be truth, not spin. Romney's highest level of support in Wisconsin at this point is 48%. He even illustrates that point in the second sentence you quoted.

And again, this pretending that Rasmussen is significantly worse than PPP is a fantasy. Nate Silver's full ratings list puts them 2 spots apart from each other out of about 60 different pollsters (they both rank relatively high). http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/06/pollster-ratings-v40-results.html  And Nate's recent article points to the fact that PPPs house effect this year has been much worse than "Scotty's." http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/calculating-house-effects-of-polling-firms/

[MorningInAmerica]

MIA, since margin is what matters and not level, then most certainly referring to level instead of margin is spinning,   And where did I mention the relative inaccuracy of Rasmussen compared to other pollsters?  My post was solely about the spin Scott put on his own numbers.  My point was that even if one takes Scotty's numbers as being based on accurate model of likely voters, they can't prove a bounce.

Fair enough. Though by that same token, none of these polls can really prove anything. We'll have to wait three more months for proof.

[MorningInAmerica]

By this time we usually have 10 dem responses aout howw great Obama is doing? Anyone?

You should stop making these types of comments. You are trying to get a rise out of people, which is textbook trolling.

No, he's not trolling. Did you not see what he was responding to?

Romneyite jacksession commence

But I suppose Tweed Sees the Truth's comment was just fine with you, and not "trying to get a rise out of people," or trolling at all? Is it just habit on this board to completely loathe people on the opposite side of the political spectrum as you?

[MorningInAmerica]

Ok new people, looks like you have met Tweed. No one takes him seriously. You want to be like him, be my guest. But you are not going to be taken seriously. Trolling should not be retaliated with more trolling (yeah, I'm looking at you Mondale 84).

Also I have seen Pepper make similar comments on other threads and they certainly are not appreciated. This is going beyond spiking the football, and actually trash talking the other team after scoring a touchdown (which I don't think this poll is but that's beside the point).

I really don't care who is new and who isn't or who knows Tweed and who doesnt. You called someone a troll for calling someone out for their hypocrisy (most likely cause they have a blue avatar). You were wrong. Why not admit that.

[MorningInAmerica]

Just don't see how the first commenter can say something to the effect of : "let the Romney circle jerk commence," and then the 2nd commenter responds : "had this been a good Democrat poll, Dems would be all over it." Yet it's only the 2nd commenter who gets called out for "trolling"?? Uhh, ok.

[MorningInAmerica]

Just don't see how the first commenter can say something to the effect of : "let the Romney circle jerk commence," and then the 2nd commenter responds : "had this been a good Democrat poll, Dems would be all over it." Yet it's only the 2nd commenter who gets called out for "trolling"?? Uhh, ok.

Tweed is constantly trolling. We already know his MO and treat him accordingly. Why is this so hard to understand?

Look at it this way. People either ignore tweed or laugh at his expense. Do either you or Pepper really want that. Is that the type of poster you would like to be compared to?

You're completely missing what you did. TWEED made a troll comment, and Pepper pointed out his hypocrisy. So in your mind, if someone makes a troll comment, and then someone responds to point out their hypocrisy, that is trolling?

[MorningInAmerica]

I think we all agree with you that these fights are circular. What I don't get, is why call out pepper? You didn't even mention the comment from Tweed that elicited Pepper's response. But according to you, that's excused, cuz he's not a "newbie," (also, IMO, cuz he's a lefty.)

[MorningInAmerica]

I accept that Wisconsin is in the tossup category at this point.  But what is the sample weighted by party affiliation?  PPP has been taking unrealistically weighted polls this year, and Survey USA had a ridiculous one of Florida last week.  But what is it for this one?

Unfortunately, you have to shell out some $$$ to get Rasmussen's crosstabs, party ID, etc. But there is a guy on this board who occasionally fills us in on that info. What was his name again?

[MorningInAmerica]

PPP just sent this tweet:

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