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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: August 16, 2012, 02:35:17 PM »

Gotta love the heavy spinning Scotty put on this:

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Problem is he reported in his June poll  Romney 47% Obama 44%.  Now maybe with a different rounding, that 47% is 46%, but that doesn't change the fact that he had Romney with a 3 point margin two months ago, and only a 1 point margin now.

Does Ryan help Romney here? Of course he does, but you can't prove it with Scotty's numbers.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 03:46:08 PM »

Gotta love the heavy spinning Scotty put on this:

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Problem is he reported in his June poll  Romney 47% Obama 44%.  Now maybe with a different rounding, that 47% is 46%, but that doesn't change the fact that he had Romney with a 3 point margin two months ago, and only a 1 point margin now.

Does Ryan help Romney here? Of course he does, but you can't prove it with Scotty's numbers.

Not sure I see what part of that is spinning on "Scotty's" part, much less "heavy spinning." He doesn't say that "this is the Republican's largest MARGIN of support yet in the Bader State. He says "this is the Republican's largest LEVEL of support..." And that would be truth, not spin. Romney's highest level of support in Wisconsin at this point is 48%. He even illustrates that point in the second sentence you quoted.

And again, this pretending that Rasmussen is significantly worse than PPP is a fantasy. Nate Silver's full ratings list puts them 2 spots apart from each other out of about 60 different pollsters (they both rank relatively high). http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/06/pollster-ratings-v40-results.html  And Nate's recent article points to the fact that PPPs house effect this year has been much worse than "Scotty's." http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/calculating-house-effects-of-polling-firms/

MIA, since margin is what matters and not level, then most certainly referring to level instead of margin is spinning,   And where did I mention the relative inaccuracy of Rasmussen compared to other pollsters?  My post was solely about the spin Scott put on his own numbers.  My point was that even if one takes Scotty's numbers as being based on accurate model of likely voters, they can't prove a bounce.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 08:06:24 PM »


It wasn't entirely Safe D in the first place, which is part of why we think you're overreacting.

Yeah.  It went from Lean D to Tossup D, which is the minimum of what one would hope would happen in the home state of a newly selected running mate,
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