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Kaine for Senate '18
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« on: August 18, 2012, 01:44:19 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 04:30:14 PM »
Quote from: President Napoleon on August 18, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
That amendment just guts the bill. I would love to hear Senator Ben argue in favor of for-profit universities. I also object to removing our involvement in determining the location; this is federal money.

How is this for-profit universities?  I'm not a fan of them to begin with, and will happily adjust the language, but I don't like us taxing tuition that schools receive - that money belongs to the institution.  And as for the location, I don't want to force regions to locate a school in a particular place of "economic distress."
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 04:41:27 PM »
Quote from: President Napoleon on August 18, 2012, 04:33:33 PM
This isn't forcing regions to do anything. We are using federal dollars to build new, first rate universities in areas of economic distress so that we can stop the bleeding and reenergize areas in decline with bright and youthful people. The regions are given the option to recommend the city based on their own public education system and what areas could use the most help.

The tax only applies to predatory for-profit universities. Their students are already ineligible to receive student loans.

Apologies, my mistake.  I'm not as up to date on our education laws as I should be.
I withdraw my previous amendment, and introduce this one:
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 04:45:23 PM »
I feel that adding new campuses is an important issue, and something the Senate should address as a body.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 04:47:31 PM »
Quote from: President Napoleon on August 18, 2012, 04:46:26 PM
That is fair. Do the Senators believe the funds assigned in sections 3 and 4 are adequate?

I wouldn't mind increasing them, but I'dl like to hear from the GM and SoIA first.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 09:29:02 PM »
Quote from: Senator Seatown on August 18, 2012, 07:34:08 PM
How much would we need in funds to make the public university system totally single payer?

Including public schools in the states, like UVA, UNC, etc?  Or just the universities created in this bill?
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2012, 09:43:53 PM »
I can't imagine that being fiscally feasible.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2012, 09:51:16 PM »
I don't see an amendment like that passing.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2012, 08:38:10 PM »
I'd like Shua to tell us if the money currently in the bill is sufficient.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2012, 10:44:26 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 07:28:05 AM »
NAY!!!
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2012, 08:36:24 AM »
Can we do a final vote?
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2012, 08:18:46 AM »
Aye
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 12:07:10 PM »
Quote from: Senator Sbane on September 19, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
It would be great if Ben could just withdraw his amendment, and mine can pass without objection. Then the bill could be voted on it's merits.

Sbane, your amendment has significantly more money.  Therefore, I withdraw my amendment.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2012, 08:31:57 AM »
Final vote?
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 09:24:48 AM »
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